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| Hi Shifali, Your protein is stable in the snake venom, because the venom itself might not have the 26S proteasomal activity. I think venom proteins are secreted using secretion granules which shield them from the cellular 26S proteasomal activity. Regarding your troubles with expression, you could try these options. 1- Codon optimization. For a small protein such as yours the entire gene could be synthetically made with codon optimization for E.coli/Yeast/Insect with affordable price (at least here in the US). 2-SUMO expression system- Look into the SUMO expression system. [Only registered users see links. ] In this system, SUMO (Small Ubiquitin-like Modifier) tag is added to the N-terminus of your protein. This will prevent N-end rule degradation if there is any. Once the protein is expressed you can purify it using standard Ni-Affinity Purification (There is a His tag N-terminus to SUMO). SUMO tag is then cleaved with a SUMO specific protease which will leave the original N-terminus of your protein intact (Arginine in your case). This system offers vectors for E.coli, Yeast and Insect Cells. 3- Once codon optimized, you can try several standard conditions to optimize the expression. -Medium -IPTG (Low to High) -Temperature (18oC to 37oC) -Time -Lysis buffers -Protease/Proteasome inhibitors Hope this helps and best of luck! Suresh Disclaimer: I do not work for Life Sensors Inc., but my company has close ties with them and I have used the SUMO expression system successfully in E.coli. __________________________ This e-mail is from Progenra Inc. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify or telephone 610-644-6974 and delete it from your system -----Original Message----- From: [Only registered users see links. ] [mailto:[Only registered users see links. ].indiana.edu] On Behalf Of [Only registered users see links. ] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:05 PM To: [Only registered users see links. ] Subject: Methods Digest, Vol 47, Issue 16 Send Methods mailing list submissions to [Only registered users see links. ] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [Only registered users see links. ] or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [Only registered users see links. ] You can reach the person managing the list at [Only registered users see links. ] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Methods digest..." Today's Topics: 1. phenol in alcohol precip (Ed Siefker) 2. Blue/white with pET15b, Rosetta2(DE3)? ([Only registered users see links. ]) 3. Genomic DNA isolation from mammalian cells (Dwayne Taliaferro) 4. Re: Blue/white with pET15b, Rosetta2(DE3)? (DK) 5. Re: phenol in alcohol precip (WS) 6. Re: Genomic DNA isolation from mammalian cells (DK) 7. Expression and -N end rule (shifali chatrath) 8. Re: Expression and -N end rule (WS) 9. Genomic DNA isolation from mammalian cells (clarification) (Dwayne Taliaferro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:38:04 -0500 From: Ed Siefker <[Only registered users see links. ]> Subject: phenol in alcohol precip To: [Only registered users see links. ] Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi. I was a little hasty in doing some phenol/chloroform preps of genomic DNA and apparently didn't remove all the phenol before adding ethanol to precipitate. How can I recover from this? I considered extracting with chloroform again, but I don't know if the phases will still separate with ethanol in there. Also, the DNA isn't in solution, so I'm guessing it would collect at the interface. If there were more DNA there, I'd just fish it out with a pipette tip, but it's a small prep. Any thoughts? Thanks a bunch -Ed ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) From: [Only registered users see links. ] Subject: Blue/white with pET15b, Rosetta2(DE3)? To: [Only registered users see links. ] Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've got my gene inserted in pET15b, and I transformed Rosetta2(DE3). Colonies appeared in appropriate numbers on an Amp/Cam plate, indicating the cells must have the vector. Without thinking it out I re-streaked a couple colonies onto another plate with IPTG/Xgal to re- test insert presence (I'm fairly confident in my original ligation but it's always possible that the cells from which I prepped my plasmid were cotransformed with empty pET15b as well). These produced blue coloration. But after thinking about it more, it seems like either blue should never be produced (regardless of insert presence/absence) or should always be produced (regardless of insert presence/absence) - because the insert is not disrupting a lacZ gene like it is in pBluescript or something of that nature. So...how's the blue being produced, and is it even evidence of my insert not being present? I'll be testing these with new preps and PCR or digest today or tomorrow anyway but thanks in advance for your help. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:20:43 -0400 From: Dwayne Taliaferro <[Only registered users see links. ].gov> Subject: Genomic DNA isolation from mammalian cells To: <[Only registered users see links. ].indiana.edu> Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ].gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Does anyone have a quick and reliable protocol for isolating gDNA from mammalian cells? I would be interested. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:59:52 GMT From: [Only registered users see links. ] (DK) Subject: Re: Blue/white with pET15b, Rosetta2(DE3)? To: [Only registered users see links. ] Message-ID: <BdsHl.83185$[Only registered users see links. ]> In article <[Only registered users see links. ]>, [Only registered users see links. ] wrote: Rosetta(DE3) is simply BL21(DE3) with pRARE2 plasmid. The strain has WT lacZ, so naturally it makes blue colonies. It has nothing to do with your plasmid or it having an insert. DK ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: WS <[Only registered users see links. ]> Subject: Re: phenol in alcohol precip To: [Only registered users see links. ] Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Ed, don't worry. Just rinse your pellet a few times with EtOH (and spin down shortly to make sure you don't loose the pellet).. If you plan downstream processing with enzymes, make sure all phenol has been removed. You might dare to check thesmell; your nose should turn out to be a very sensitive GC system with a neuronal detector attached to. Chloroform might not be that good choice, even that DNA doesn't dissolve in it, (regardless if there is EtOH and or phenol present), as it does not dissolve phenol as well as ethanol does. You might remember: the DNA (and other water soluble stuff) is in the phenol phase, lipids are in the chloroform phase and proteins are inbetween. Have fun! Wo ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:22:51 GMT From: [Only registered users see links. ] (DK) Subject: Re: Genomic DNA isolation from mammalian cells To: [Only registered users see links. ] Message-ID: <8zsHl.69302$[Only registered users see links. ]> In article <[Only registered users see links. ].net> , Dwayne Taliaferro <[Only registered users see links. ].gov> wrote: The purpose of gDNA? For "high" yeild and reasonable purity, here is what I used on many different cells (dicty, insect, mammalian lines): Pellet cells from 10 ml culture, resuspend in 1% Triton X100, spin, keep pellet, lyse nuclei with 400 ul 1% SDS, 20 mM EDTA, add 600 ul chloroform, vortex 15", spin hard, take upper phase, repeat extraction 2X. Add RNAse to 0.1 mg/ml, let sit for 5', mix 3 volumes of Qiagen buffer GQ or 5 volumes of Qiagen buffer PB with one volume of chloroform-extracted material, load onto regular Qiagen miniprep column, wash 2X with PB, wash 2X with PE, elute with 100 ul of 1-10 mM Tris, pH 8.0-8.5 (or TE) heated to ~ 70C. DK ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: 22 Apr 2009 02:45:33 -0000 From: "shifali chatrath" <[Only registered users see links. ]> Subject: Expression and -N end rule To: <[Only registered users see links. ].indiana.edu> Message-ID: <20090422024533.56211.qmail@f4mail204.rediffmail.c om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Dear all! I had mentioned my problem earlier also in the forum but nobody replied. I am sure you great minds should have a solution to my problem. Please help me if you can! I want to express a snake venom protein,~ 10kDa, 10 cys residues and 5 disulphide bonds.Mature protein has Arg as first residue after signal sequnece is clipped off. First of all, i tried yeast expression system. I expressed my protein in pPICZ alpha, under alpha factor signal sequence followed by Kex2 and Ste13 signal sequences, such that the mature protein will have native -N terminus with Arg as first residue, as of my protein. BUt, I could not see any protein expression even under different medium and proper aeration and whatever possible troubleshooting one could do. Recently, i read -N end rule which states that Arg is destabilizing residues and directs the protein for degradation to 26S proteasome. I checked with the company, they say, It hold true for every expression system. But, my question is, if that is the case, how the protein is stable in snake's venom. I have found the protein in the crude venom of the snake. Also, the protein is expressed under alpha factor signal sequence which is supposed to be secreted into the medium. Therefore,once the protein is out into medium, it is out of cell now, Kex2 and Ste13 cleavages should be happening outside the cell, therefore, there should be no proteasomal degradation. Am I right? After clipping off signal sequence, protein will be exported out, still will there be any proteasomal targetting of proteins with destabilizing residue at -N terminus? I read in -N end rule that, protein's life depends upon penultimate residue to Met. We know, for a protein to be synthesised, we need to have a start codon,i.e. Met. In -N end rule they say, Met will be removed be Metaminopeptidase(MAP), so if we express a protein we should not be counting Met residue in the expected MW? Because, not all mature protein sequences start from Met. Then,I tried expressing my protein using E. coli epression system, cDNA cloned in pET19b in Rosetta gami cells and RIL cells.I couldn't see any expression. Cells were growing normaly.(I hope, the protein is not inhibiting transcription and translation). Met and Gly had to be added at -N terminus to maintain the reading frame. Protein is 10Kda and was cloned without tag sequence. I mean expected protein should be 10kDa.I confirmed the sequences before cloning and even plasmid isolated from ex-pression hosts. DNA is there but no protein. Please answer any, if not all, of the above question. i am struggling with all this for alst 8 months. Your suggestions and help will be highly appreciable. Thanks in advance. Shifali Shifali Chatrath Graduate Student Protein science Lab Dept. of Biological sciences National University of Singapore Singapore +65-65161210 +65-96393449 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:13:52 -0700 (PDT) From: WS <[Only registered users see links. ]> Subject: Re: Expression and -N end rule To: [Only registered users see links. ] Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Shifali, maybe your protein is toxic? you could change codon usage and/or try higher eucaryotic cells. To narrow down the effect of signal sequences etc.: Have you considered putting your protein (i.e its cDNA) and/or part of it in front of a reporter gene like GFP or insert just anything known in order to disrupt a possile action? Best regards, Wo ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:03:41 -0400 From: Dwayne Taliaferro <[Only registered users see links. ].gov> Subject: Genomic DNA isolation from mammalian cells (clarification) To: <[Only registered users see links. ].indiana.edu> Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ].gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am looking for a protocol that will allow me to purify genomic DNA from mammalian cells with the purpose of using it for Southern blotting and PCR. DT ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Methods mailing list [Only registered users see links. ] [Only registered users see links. ] End of Methods Digest, Vol 47, Issue 16 *************************************** |
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