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| We have been doing FISH with 300 bp Y chromosome probes in which we make the probe up with 11-digoxigenin-dUTP (using the Vysis kit) and then illuminate using direct fluorophoric (rhodamine-conjugated) antibody to Dig. Now we have had no problem having consistent and continual success doing with cultured cell positive controls from the males, and cultured cell negative controls with the females (other negative controls include incubating cells with no Y probe---only competitive DNA). But when we get to paraffin-embedded formalin-fixed tissues, there has not even been one success, let alone repeated success. I have cardiac tissue from males and females for testing the effectiveness I have tried many variables. The method I am using now for the 6-micron heart sections is (all steps at ambient temp unless specified): 1. Clearing of sections: Histoclear (xylene substitute), 3 successive jars this is invariable since the paraffin must be removed 2. 100% absolute ethanol to wash away xylene 3. 0.2 N HCl for 20 minutes this is rather common apparently, but can it depurinate DNA and affect hybrid formation/stability? 4. 1.0 M thiocyanate at 80 degrees heat treatment supposed to break some methylene bridges that formed by formaldehyde fixation, make tissues more accessible have done heat treatment in pH 6.0 citrate in past (also well known alternative) 5. protease digestion have tried: * pepsin at 0.5 mg/ml in 10 mM HCl, 37 deg for 30 min * proteinase K at 5 ug/ml in 20 mM Tris pH 7.4, 2 mM CaCl2 for 15 min * proteinase K at 15 ug/ml in Tris/CaCl2 for 30 min The rest of the steps are rather uncontroversial. Denaturation is soaking slide 3 min at 73 deg in 70% formamide/2X SSC then drying in ethanol series and placing on 45-50 degree slide warmer. The probe is heated at same temp for 5 min in 50% formamide/2XSCC/10% dextran sulfate, and then spotted on dried target, left overnight in 37 deg humified chamber for hybridization (coverslips sealed by rubber cement prevent drying out). Posthyb washing is 50% formamide/2XSSC, then 2XSSC, then 2XSSC/0.1% NP-40, each two jars in succession, all at 46 degrees. The anti-Dig antibody binding phase begins by blocking with PBS/0.1% Tween- 20/1% BSA, then with the antibody in PBS/Tween-20/0.2% BSA, and then washing with PBS/Tween-20. The DAPI/antifade is put on, and then slide visualized. The nuclei show up well with DAPI. There appears to be some serious background red fluorescence in the tissue as we look with the TRITC filters. The characteristic red dot in the nuclei does not show up consistently though. We don't expect to get 100% of the nuclei in male heart sections to have red-dotted blue nuclei, and just blue nuclei in the females. But published reports suggest that more than half the cells in the male sections should be unambiguously positive (100% of our male cultured cells are positive, but they go through a different fixation process: after swelling nuclei with 75 mM KCl and fixing in 3:1 MeOH:acetic acid, these are dropped onto slides and steamed a little before air-drying). Other considerations?? 1. Clearing: we don't think that clearing is a problem. Should sections be rehydrated gradually in a reverse ethanol series? 2. Withhold the mineral acid treatment? Probably not a significant factor. 3. Tissue section thickness: perhaps 6 microns is TOO thin, and one will see DAPI-stained nuclei but the part of the nuclei that was Y-bearing has been shaved off. That would give misleading results. But certainly we would expect many of the other cells to bear Y-chromosomes and be positive. 4. Heat/chemical treatments to improve probe accessibility. This may be the major factor. Protease and acid treatments have been done that seem to affect nuclear structure (DAPI staining with hollowed-out centers). 5. Indirect antibody illumination? Using indirect antibody detection often increases background, but increases likelihood of detection. But if conditions are excellent for cultured cells, why should they not be the same for tissue sections? If anyone else has been confronted with this problem, I'd appreciate some suggestions. |
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