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Einstine theories as clumsy as Ptolemaic geocentric system.

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Old 09-01-2008, 04:41 PM
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Default Einstine theories as clumsy as Ptolemaic geocentric system.



Ptolemaic system considered earth to be in Center of Universe and
created paths for other planets as complex as possible.

Ptolemaic made the assumptions based on Observations. The Observations
were correct but conclusion was wrong.

And today we know Earth & Planets revolve round the Sun.

Einstine similarly has made a few wrong assumptions and created
complex equations for the Universe.

1. Light speed is always constant [Wrong]

We Observe that light speed is same always but it does not mean that
observation is correct.
The appratus/ mechanism used is false.

2. Nothing can travel faster than light [Wrong]

Only because fastest known object is light we cannot make anything
travel faster than that.

If a bus in town is the fastest mode of travel. It does not mean
Nothing can go faster than the Bus.

3. Mass tends to infinity when an object reaches speed of light
[Wrong]

When a body travels with speed "v". the K.E is 1/2 m v^2. So It is the
Kinetic energy that increases and not the mass.

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Einstine theory is proved by false Observations.

I will proove 3 is equal to 5 by wrong Observations.
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Say x=3; and y=5; I will proove x==y;

x=3 Ok.
y=5 Ok

Let n=x+y ok
Let m=y+x ok

If n==m then y equals x

Since n is equal to m, y = x

So 3 is equal to 5. [Prooved]

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So you see how I prooved 3 is equal to 5. Same way Einstine theories
"A bunch of Crap" is prooved by Maths.

These equations may be correct but physical interpretations are wrong.


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Old 09-01-2008, 04:52 PM
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Sanny wrote:

A+ for actually using logic and science.


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Old 09-01-2008, 05:28 PM
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Mike Jr. wrote:

This is the most used bullshit supplied by the "relativist church".
GPS uses "absolute positioning" and such "absolutes" are against
GTR's most basic concepts. (no absolutes)
If it did not use "absolute positioning, it could never find
other "absolute positions".
Sheesh!
Get a clue Mr relativist monkey.


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Old 09-01-2008, 05:41 PM
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Default Einstine theories as clumsy as Ptolemaic geocentric system.

In article
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Sanny <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


What principle of algebra lets you draw this conclusion?


Since your grasp of algebra, a simple subject, is not complete, I'd say
it's fair to conclude that you don't understand Einstein's theories, any
of the work that led up to them, or any of the work that has happened
since to confirm them. You haven't proved a thing about Relativity.

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Old 09-01-2008, 05:45 PM
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In sci.physics Spaceman <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

GPS uses positioning relative to the Earth.

All GPS "positions" are relative to the Earth's surface.


Get a clue, dumb ass tire changer.

How the hell did you get out of my killfile?

No matter, back you go.


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Old 09-01-2008, 05:49 PM
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In article <[Only registered users see links. ]>,
"Spaceman" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


That's wrong. They had to adjust the clocks on the GPS satellites to run
faster to make up for their speed in orbit. A young engineer on the
project pointed this out, but few believed him. They either didn't
believe Special Relativity or didn't believe it applied to their
situation. Nevertheless, they installed a switch on the control panel
that would select the mode for the clock. It was called the Einstein
Switch.

They found within a day or two that they had to leave it in the ON
position. Newer versions of the control panel don't have the Einstein
Switch.

So. We invite you ro do as Mike Jr. suggests: Disprove GTR by direct
experimental proof.

On "Church": A church asks you to believe stuff without proof or
evidence. There's plenty of evidence for GTR. The way GPS works is one
of them.

On "absolute positioning": Your suggestion is wrong, too. GPS uses a
local coordinate system; the positions of the satellites are calculated
in reference to that coordinate system. However, that system rotates,
orbits, precesses, orbits some more, wobbles, and so forth. So indeed,
GPS doesn't give you your "absolute" position; just your position
relative to the Earth.

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Old 09-01-2008, 05:53 PM
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Those are also known to anyone that understands postioning,
as absolute relative postitions.
without the absolute part, you have no "actual" physical reference.



All GPS positions are absolute relative positions.
They consider the speeds of the GPS sats as absolute speeds
relative to the Earth that is considered "at rest".
If the Earth was not considered an "absolute" at rest frame.
Nothing about GPS would work.
Sheesh. again.
They are still clueless.
Trying to do "science" without absolutes is like trying to feed
a monkey without any actual absolute physical food.
LOL


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Old 09-01-2008, 05:54 PM
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In article <[Only registered users see links. ]>,
"Spaceman" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


How about san F instead? No evidence was presented for any of the
assertions.

For instance, Sanny claims that the appratus/ mechanism used to measure
the speed of light is false, but gives no evidence.

For instance, his attempt to refute speed of light as a limit is
presented with insufficient logic and ignores a century of work with
particle accelerators that shows without question that the speed of
light is as fast as a massive particle will go.

For instance, he presents the equation of Newtonian kinetic energy but
ignores the Lorentz transformations as well as a century of work with
particle accelerators that shows without question that mass increases as
a particle's speed approaches the speed of light.

Spaceman, if you think that Sanny's logic was good, that certainly casts
a lot of doubt on your own logic.

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Old 09-01-2008, 05:57 PM
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Timberwoof wrote:

So, you agree you had to "alter" the clocks, yet you don't agree
that the clocks malfunctoned.
MORON!
LOL


Hello? anything in that brain anymore?
Absolute postitions on Earth are being used.
The postitions on Earth are considered as the "absolute" rest frame.
Get a clue.
Basic geometry and absolute positions on Earths surface is how
it works.
I bet you never learned triangulation in your advanced skip over
the classical physics parts of physics.


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Old 09-01-2008, 06:05 PM
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Timberwoof wrote:

He does not need the evidence when one examines the actual
experiments themselves.
Out of all the mechanisms used, not one actually "measures"
the speed of light in a relative speed case.
If you actually checked on such you might actually find such
facts out yourself also.
But we know, you take all of that crap on faith instead.





No,
The only thing a particle accelerator proves is that the fastest
electromagnetic forces can push a massive particle is limited
to the actual speed of the "electromagnetic forces" themselves.
Again, If you actually looked at the mechanism, you might figure
them out, but again. you have simply accepted the incorrect
conclusions on faith alone.




The "at rest" mass never increases.
The KE gives energy to the same exact mass.
You should learn about how to measure mass someday.




No,
If you can not follow what he has stated, it means you refuse
to even think about "science" and have accepted all you know
on faith alone.

Have fun in rubber ruler church.


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