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#1
04-05-2008, 02:27 AM
 mitchgrav@hotmail.com Guest Posts: n/a
Calculating our motion through space

If we are moving toward CMBR it will be blueshifted slightly. It will
be redshifted as we are moving away from its direction of motion. The
Doppler Shift to CMBR will give us our motion in space.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
#2
04-05-2008, 07:31 PM
 CWatters Guest Posts: n/a
Calculating our motion through space

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Velocity relative to CMB anisotropy
From the CMB data it is seen that our local group of galaxies (the galactic
cluster that includes the Solar System's Milky Way Galaxy) appears to be
moving at 627 ± 22 km/s relative to the reference frame of the CMB in the
direction of galactic longitude l = 264.4o, b = 48.4o. [31] This motion
results in an anisotropy of the data (CMB appearing slightly warmer in the
direction of movement than in the opposite direction). The standard
interpretation of this temperature variation is a simple velocity redshift
and blueshift due to motion relative to the the CMB, however alternative
cosmological models can explain some fraction of the observed dipole
temperature distribution in the CMB (see reference for one example). [32]

#3
04-05-2008, 08:38 PM
 www.ejdoscher.com Guest Posts: n/a
Calculating our motion through space

Mitch;

Scientists tell us that CMBR is throughout the universe in every
direction. How could we be moving toward it or away from it? Please
refer to my essay # 3 at [Only registered users see links. ] for more of my comments on
CMBR.

Regards,

Ed Doscher

On Apr 4, 10:27*pm, [Only registered users see links. ] wrote:

#4
04-06-2008, 12:51 AM
 Steve Dorman Guest Posts: n/a
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[Only registered users see links. ] wrote:

Yup. No particular problem with that.

Did you think there was?
#5
04-06-2008, 02:44 PM
 CWatters Guest Posts: n/a
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I think he was hoping for a prize for his "discovery".

#6
04-07-2008, 11:38 PM
 Steve Dorman Guest Posts: n/a
Calculating our motion through space

Uncle Al wrote:

There may not be a privileged centre, but there is a 'uniform'
background against which motion can be referenced.

You've not heard of proper motion of galaxies?
Nor the suggested Great Attractor (evidence for which is suggested by
the dipole anisotropy of the CMBR)?
#7
04-08-2008, 12:01 AM
 Androcles Guest Posts: n/a
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"Steve Dorman" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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| There may not be a privileged centre, but there is a 'uniform'
| background against which motion can be referenced.
|
| You've not heard of proper motion of galaxies?
| Nor the suggested Great Attractor (evidence for which is suggested by
| the dipole anisotropy of the CMBR)?

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Dork Al Schwartz has not heard of it, correct.

#8
04-08-2008, 12:29 AM
 Daniel Mandic Guest Posts: n/a
Calculating our motion through space

Uncle Al wrote:

reminds me a bit to conversations 6000y B.C. ;-)

Kind regards,

Daniel Mandic
#9
04-08-2008, 01:08 AM
 Steve Dorman Guest Posts: n/a
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Good one, have you seen this one?
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#10
04-08-2008, 02:18 AM
 hanson Guest Posts: n/a
Calculating our motion through space

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hanson wrote:
That beautiful false color pix sports the following quaint
"explanation"... ahahahaha...
::: CMBR Dipole: Speeding Through the Universe
::: Credit: DMR, COBE, NASA, Four-Year Sky Map
::: Explanation: Our Earth is not at rest. The Earth moves around the Sun.
::: The Sun orbits the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. The Milky Way
::: Galaxy orbits in the Local Group of Galaxies. The Local Group falls
::: toward the Virgo Cluster of Galaxies. But these speeds are less than
::: the speed that all of these objects together move relative to the cosmic
::: microwave background radiation (CMBR). In the above all-sky map
::: from the COBE satellite, radiation in the Earth's direction of motion
::: appears blueshifted and hence hotter, while radiation on the opposite
::: side of the sky is redshifted and colder. The map indicates that the
::: Local Group moves at about 600 kilometers per second relative to
::: this primordial radiation. This high speed was initially unexpected
::: and its magnitude is still unexplained. Why are we moving so fast?
::: What is out there?
hanson wrote:
What does that say about MMX? -- Are they going to resurrect a
Doppler aether now? ... What is the big deal about that pix if such
dipoles are experienced or present at every mass laden point in
cosmic space? ... What are the conditions to produce a pix that
shows no dipoles? -- What would such a situation indicate to be?
and AFA "What is out there?"... What is at the locations of these
dipoles?... Are they just one of those "appearances" that have
no real physical existence... like the end of the rainbow... a scenario
only beloved by EDs?... ahahaha... ahahahanson

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