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Old 03-31-2008, 10:24 PM
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On 28 mar, 05:03, [Only registered users see links. ] wrote:

The actual relation is that anytime an electron is forced to slow
down, the energy now in excess evacuates as a photon. The
process is called bremmstrahlung, and although all occurences
boil down to this, it is seldom refered to as such.

Are you saying that all radiation is bremmstrahlung,? I got my a**s chewed
pretty fiercely by a couple of High Energy folks when I suggested that on a
different thread. They maintained that bremmstrahlung is strictly a High
Energy phenomenon that manifests itself then near-light-speed charges either
bang into one another (or something else) and move suddenly in a different
direction OR come to a (forced) screeching halt.

Suggested reading on this phenomenon?

Because each of them, after having been emitted previously by a
slowing
down electron, travels as a self sustaining and self propelling
quantity
of energy as part of its energy oscillates between an electric state
and
a magnetic state.

NOT SO! In an Electromagnetic (EM) wave, the E and H components are in
phase. There is no possibility for such a system to oscillate from one state
to another. Both states exist at the same time.

André Michaud

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Old 04-02-2008, 07:49 PM
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On 31 mar, 18:24, "Bill Miller" <[Only registered users see links. ].net>
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Any charged particle slowing down, either transverse as with wiggling
induced
synchrotron radiation, or longitudinal as you mention can only be
bremmstrahlung by definition. Simple semantics.


If you translate the word to english, it translates as "slowing down
radiation".


I was not talking about waves, but about localized photons as
hypothesized
by de Broglie, contrary to wave treatment, they involve 180 deg
dephasing,
which allows the self sustaining oscillation described by the equation
and
the self sustaining velocity due to half the photons's complement of
enegry.

André Michaud

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Old 04-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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On Apr 2, 12:49*pm, [Only registered users see links. ] wrote:

There is no "english", nor is "radiation" English. "Bremsstrahlung"
means "brakesbeaming".
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:12 AM
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On Mar 31, 3:24*pm, "Bill Miller" <[Only registered users see links. ].net>
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How and where? the far field? How are they in fasis? Do two Es and
two Hs make one E and one H? They're still not independent.
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:13 PM
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On Mar 31, 3:24 pm, "Bill Miller" <[Only registered users see links. ].net>
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How and where? the far field? How are they in fasis? Do two Es and
two Hs make one E and one H? They're still not independent.

They are not independent. They both have a common source: charges and their
movement. Jefimenko does a great job of analyzing this. So did Panofsky --
using a different technique with the same result.

Bill


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Old 04-06-2008, 12:42 PM
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Autymn D. C. wrote:


hmmmm

I would say directly translated 'braking-ray' :-)

Although, I never heard the Word 'Bremsstrahlung'. Rather
'Bremsstrahl'... Which is rather defined by 'Gegenschub' or
'Hauptstrahl-Umlenkeinrichtung'.


You also haven't defined if you mean 'jet' or 'beam' propulsion!?!



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic
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