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Old 06-28-2007, 12:23 AM
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Vandar wrote:


That was an 'internal' problem.......
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:30 AM
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"Vandar" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote


Sorry. We've lost several Presidents to assassination, but there's only been
one Pearl Harbor and one 9/11. So far.


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Old 06-28-2007, 12:30 AM
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"Vandar" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote


Sorry. We've lost several Presidents to assassination, but there's only been
one Pearl Harbor and one 9/11. So far.


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Old 06-28-2007, 01:00 AM
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On Jun 27, 5:30 pm, "proehling" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy, Pearl Harbor, 9/11,
Interestingly, they were all caused by evil conspiracies.

If you don't believe me, just consult the internet.


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Old 06-28-2007, 01:00 AM
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On Jun 27, 5:30 pm, "proehling" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy, Pearl Harbor, 9/11,
Interestingly, they were all caused by evil conspiracies.

If you don't believe me, just consult the internet.


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Old 06-28-2007, 02:01 AM
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proehling wrote:


Hey Petie, post some more links that expose you as a kook
and your conspiracy theory as a joke, then praise them. That
was funny as hell... <chuckle>


TroytheTroll wrote:





Hey Toy, Petie "I'm not psychotic at all" Roehling's link says
that you and he are the nut jobs, and that your kooky conspiracy
theory is as hair brained as you two clowns. Thing is, you're both
a little too clueless to realize it. <vbg>
God damn, but you gullible, puss brained conspiracy kooks can be
crazy stupid. Thanks for the laughs, Toy! Hey, have your mom read
the following quote and explain it to you when she tucks you in
tonight. <chuckle>

From psycho Petie's link:


[Only registered users see links. ]

Debunking Conspiracy Theorists Paranoid Fantasies About Sept 11
Distract From the Real Issues

by Gerard Holmgren, 9 January 2003

Copyright Gerard Holmgren. Jan 9 2003.
This work may be freely copied and distributed without permission as
long as it not for commercial use. Please include the author's name, the
web address where you found it and the copyright notice.
From: EcoNews Service <[Only registered users see links. ]>
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:05 PM


"Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event
there
will usually be at least one, often several wild conspiracy theories
which spring up around it. "The CIA killed Hendrix" "The Pope had John
Lennon murdered", "Hitler was half Werewolf", "Space aliens replaced
Nixon with a clone", etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous
and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation
to it.

So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned
their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is
-- sadly -- a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to
lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis. One
of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has
attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that
it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an
evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other
than that they "hate our freedoms."

Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of
this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of
delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage
across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of
otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.

Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect
that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational
analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such
silly conspiracy theories. These crackpots even contend that the
extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in
organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able.

Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading
on airline stocks -- linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush
on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the
firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented
proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy
theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers
somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them
around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important
buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it
was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do. The huge
difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more
preposterous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the
tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions."






--

[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

[Only registered users see links. ]

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
[Only registered users see links. ]

[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:01 AM
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proehling wrote:


Hey Petie, post some more links that expose you as a kook
and your conspiracy theory as a joke, then praise them. That
was funny as hell... <chuckle>


TroytheTroll wrote:





Hey Toy, Petie "I'm not psychotic at all" Roehling's link says
that you and he are the nut jobs, and that your kooky conspiracy
theory is as hair brained as you two clowns. Thing is, you're both
a little too clueless to realize it. <vbg>
God damn, but you gullible, puss brained conspiracy kooks can be
crazy stupid. Thanks for the laughs, Toy! Hey, have your mom read
the following quote and explain it to you when she tucks you in
tonight. <chuckle>

From psycho Petie's link:


[Only registered users see links. ]

Debunking Conspiracy Theorists Paranoid Fantasies About Sept 11
Distract From the Real Issues

by Gerard Holmgren, 9 January 2003

Copyright Gerard Holmgren. Jan 9 2003.
This work may be freely copied and distributed without permission as
long as it not for commercial use. Please include the author's name, the
web address where you found it and the copyright notice.
From: EcoNews Service <[Only registered users see links. ]>
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:05 PM


"Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event
there
will usually be at least one, often several wild conspiracy theories
which spring up around it. "The CIA killed Hendrix" "The Pope had John
Lennon murdered", "Hitler was half Werewolf", "Space aliens replaced
Nixon with a clone", etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous
and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation
to it.

So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned
their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is
-- sadly -- a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to
lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis. One
of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has
attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that
it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an
evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other
than that they "hate our freedoms."

Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of
this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of
delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage
across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of
otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.

Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect
that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational
analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such
silly conspiracy theories. These crackpots even contend that the
extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in
organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able.

Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading
on airline stocks -- linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush
on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the
firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented
proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy
theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers
somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them
around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important
buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it
was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do. The huge
difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more
preposterous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the
tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions."






--

[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

[Only registered users see links. ]

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
[Only registered users see links. ]

[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]
[Only registered users see links. ]

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:14 AM
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Polarhound wrote:

It really doesn't matter. The public is ruled by impressionism.


Perhaps that group is not impressed.
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:14 AM
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Polarhound wrote:

It really doesn't matter. The public is ruled by impressionism.


Perhaps that group is not impressed.
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:49 AM
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"Vandar" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote


Sorry again. When a President dies the Vice President immediately steps in
and governmental continuity is preserved. The system is set up specifically
so that the death of *any* individual will have just as little effect on the
operation of the country as possible; and indeed, in every case where we've
lost a President the system has worked exactly as it was supposed to.

But Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were both acts that both directly precipitated
warfare, and no matter what sort of rabid Kennedy admirer you might be, you
can't claim that his death had the devastating after-effects of either one.

(And please, let's not bother with the heartfelt revisionist claims that
"Kennedy would have done this or done that had he lived". That sort of thing
is nothing but speculation, and we -or at least I- am trying to deal with
objective facts, not hero worship.)



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