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Old 07-09-2006, 08:05 PM
George Hammond
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The Egyptian religion was the first, most sophist-
icated, most technically advanced religion the world has
ever seen. It wasthe high water mark of world religion,
Israel notwithstanding. This because Egypt was the first
empire the world ever saw. It lasted a staggering 3,000
years until the Christian Era when it was finally
overwhelmed by the Greco-Roman empires.

Recall Moses himself was born in Egypt where he copied it
into the Old Testament and renamed the Egyptian Sun God the
God of Israel, Yahweh.
The Christians plagiarized the religion from the Jews and
published it in the New Testament where the Sun God became
the Son of God and it can be seen today complete with the
original Egyptian theory of Life After Death now bellowing
forth from the mouth of St. Paul in I Cor 15:35-58.

All of which brings us to the present modern scientific
thesis which is:


As I have just stated, the Egyptian theory of Life After
Death is IDENTICAL to the Christian theory and this is no
surprise since the Christians simply copied the Egyptian
theory which was forwarded to them by the Jews who had lived
in Egypt for 400 years with Moses.

The Egyptian theory of the Afterlife is ENGRAVED IN STONE
in thousands of lines of hieroglyphics chiseled into the
limestone walls of more than 10 major pyramids at Saqquara,
including the big ones that appear on a pack of Camel
cigarettes. Yes.... that's what's in those pyramids....
dozens of chiseled copies of the Egyptian theory of Life
After Death known as the "Egyptian Book of the Dead".
And the CHRISTIAN theory of Life After Death, as stated
in I Cor 15:35-58, is simply a Latin translation and
repetition of the theory written on the Pyramid walls 3,000
years earlier!

However.... this theory has a well known problem that has
been pointed out ever since antiquity, and has been
particularly damning ever since modern science was
discovered. And that is:

That a theory of a spiritual afterlife
based on a "dream mechanism" of some
kind is not scientifically viable because
quite obviously a "dead brain cannot dream"
not even for a few seconds, never mind
for months or years or "eternity" or however
long Life After Death is supposed to last.

For this reason the theory of a "death dream Afterlife" has
never been taken very seriously by scientific people.

Oh, it's quite compelling to realize that a "death dream"
unlike a nocturnal dream would be visual, tactile and
audible etc, while a nocturnal dream can only be visual...
and therefore presumably a "death dream" would be
"completely real"... however.... the problem that "dead
brains can't dream" still persists and prevents most people
from taking the idea seriously.

HOWEVER.... it turns out that the discovery of RELATIVITY
has changed all that!

Now it is realized that "life after death" might actually be
a form of "life before death" that is simply time dilated so
that it APPEARS to take place after death.

For instance. Suppose the script of this "death dream" had
been slowly and methodically written in advance throughout
your entire life, minute by minute and recorded in your
brain. And then suppose at the last instant of life it were
to "dump" or "read out" almost instantaneously at near
optical frequencies. Suppose in a few microseconds this
long prepared "life after death" dream (or life) was read
out and then "TIME DILATED" so that the few microseconds was
expanded to, say, 5 years...! And suppose your
consciousness which was viewing this dream was also "time
dilated" so that the "movie" lasted 5-years as far as you
were concerned.... although to the paramedic rescue team who
found you dead with your head in a toilet from an alcohol
drinking binge would assume that you "died instantly from a
heart attack". To them you died in a few seconds..... but
to you, you lived on for 5 years in paradise after you

HENCE..... we now see that the age old objection that "dead
brains can't dream" is NO LONGER an argument against the
possibility of a "death dream" type mechanism for Life After

IN FACT..... I think Einstein's MIRACULOUS discovery of the
so called "TWINS PARADOX" is EXACTLY the miracle of Life
After Death! In other words it is relativistic loss of
simultaneity that explains life "after death"..
It is really "life before death" which only APPEARS to
take place "after death" due to the relativistic loss of
simultaneity between the living and the dying!

And the truly amazing thing.... is that the ANCIENT
EGYPTIANS figured all this out and ENGRAVED IT ON THE
PYRAMID WALLS 4,500 years before EINSTEIN was even born!

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Old 07-09-2006, 08:06 PM
Phineas T Puddleduck
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On 9/7/06 21:05, in article [Only registered users see links. ],
"George Hammond" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

And the truly amazing thing.... George Hammond is an idiot

Relf's Law? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Bullshit repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses."
Corollary -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
It approaches the asymptote faster, the more pseduos you throw in your
Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orange jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson
Why parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.
Official emperor of sci.physics, head mumbler of the "Cult of INSANE
SCIENCE". Pay no attention to my butt poking forward, it is expanding.

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Old 07-09-2006, 08:12 PM
T Wake
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Oh, sorry George. There doesn't seem to be anything left...

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Old 07-09-2006, 08:23 PM
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Try 10,000 years. But still, that doesn't relate to your argument.

Yeah, yeah. I swear you are evidence of the existence of the bi-cameral

How does a discovery change past history?

I'll buy that.

Ah, autobiography. Carry on. What else inspires your ideas besides getting
dead drunk?

Let's write a sci-fi story.

A stone was found in Ireland around 1840. It had markings that were
suspected to be made by a human hand. Much time was spent trying to fathom
the message until one day the janitor saw window light glancing across its
surface and it read, in plain English, "Again today I am drunk."

Carry on.

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Old 07-09-2006, 11:14 PM
Mr Clarke
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"George Hammond" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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What a disgusting waste of life these "Dream Machines" are.
I`ve personally been tortured with this crap as far back as I can remember.

They DO exist and they ARE USED BY IDIOTS.
Ashley Clarke

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Old 07-10-2006, 12:34 AM
George Hammond
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I'll tell you what Dr. Baugh.... I'll grant you "right of passage"
not to be insulted by me and furthermore I will overlook your
insulting remarks toward me (e.g. 'Hammond is profoundly warped'),
again, in deference to your personal accomplishments, obvious
sacrifice and personal dedication in achieving a PhD in theoretical
physics from the Theoretical Physics Group at GA Tech under
the world renouned Prof. David Finkelstein
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I will remark that you obviously are the most intelligent
and accomplished scientist who has ever said anything about
this theory, even granting the fact that you are only 27 years
old and still a (post doc) student. The only possible exception
being (Prof.) Chris Isham, who unfortunately made the same
presumptious mistake you have made, in that while you
are (obviously) both brilliant world class mathematical
physicists, neither one of you has an ounce of the "Feynman
practical touch" when it comes to intuitive practical scientific
In the end however I have come to regret the impolite
(indeed exceedingly crude) remarks that I made to Chris Isham
after he perfunctly dismissed my theory as (apparently)
incompetent.... when in fact it was he who incompetently
rejected the idea of a scientific proof of God out of hand.

At any rate, I have decided not to repeat the mistake of
insulting one of my superiors in the field of Physics, and
to more or less adopt the "Micheal Faraday approach"
when talking to first rank scientific personnel, such as
you or Prof. Isham, in the future. I realize now the
need to "politely pre-suggest" when talking to first rank
theoreticians.... as did Michael Faraday when talking to
James Clerk Maxwell.

Anyway, I do appreciate at least a backhanded compliment
in that you have said "Hammond is profoundly warped but
not profoundly retarded" when you know quite well that
in fact Hammond is (compared to someone like you or
C. Isham) "profoundly retarded but not profoundly
warped".... at least you have a charitable sense of humor.
I am grateful for that!
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Old 07-10-2006, 01:02 AM
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George Hammond wrote:

It was not the first religion.

Egypt was the most sophisticated and technically advanced people
_at_the_time_. The Romans were more technically advanced. Religion is
never 'technical'.

I think that you know nothing of _world_ religions.

It did _NOT_ last until 'Christian Era', Alexander, for example was 332
BCE, you do understand that the B stands for Before don't you ?

You are confused. Are you claiming that 'Yehweh' was what the
Egyptians called their Sun god or that Moses changed the name of the
'God of Israel' to be 'Ra' ?

So you are now saying that it is Jesus who is the sun-god/son-god and
not Yehweh at all.

You do make these huge leaps with no logic or evidential basis.

Actually that is quite untrue. The Egyptians believed that life after
death was only available to kings and high born and required
mumification and other special features such as pyramids.

Also the Jews did not live 'with Moses' for 400 years. He wasn't that

Eaxctly. If a 'soul' can see without benefit of eyes then how come
people go blind when they lose their eyes.

So it is only 'apparent' and not real at all. Well there yer go. It
ain't real.

At least you recognise that this is all a 'suppose'.

What is 'optical frequency' ?

Your previous claims were that due to 'brain deficit' the brain could
not process stuff fast enough to see everything anyway, and 20% was
invisible due to being 'too fast'. Now you claim that the brain could
process 5 years information in a few microseconds.

At least one of those claims is wrong, they both cannot be true.

Actually both are untrue.

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Old 07-10-2006, 02:59 AM
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The most amazing thing for me was the meaning of life and confirmation
of a five year after-life was staring at me, the whole time, from my
pack of Camels!

George do you think Phillip Morris knows this and wants to expedite our
journey to this paradise?

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Old 07-10-2006, 04:21 AM
George Hammond
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I've been thinking the same thing.

Oh sure, and Leif Ericson discovered America not Columbus.

13 Animal-Headed gods is a "technical religious fact".
The Ankh, the Egyptian Cross and heiroglyph
for "Life" is a "technical religious fact".
Euphemistically symbolizing God as the Sun,
is a "technical religous fact".
Explaining life after death in (structural psychological)
terms of the Ba, Ka and Akh is a
"technical religous fact".
Portraying the human soul as a bird with a human
head is a "technical religious fact".
Symbolizing the resurrected spititual body as
a Phoneix bird is a "technical religious fact".
Incense is a "technical religious fact".
Prayer is a "technical religious fact"
the list goes on

That's because you have your head up your ass
Nazi stooge.

I understand the world looks entirely brown
if you have your head up your ass.

Neither stooge.... I'm saying that the Pharoah, the Egyptian
priests and Moses were all enlightned enough to know
there was one God, and what it was....brain growth as
visible evidenced by a person's awareness, which is a
****in-A whole lot more than you know.

answered above.

there aren't any leaps... those are simply
gaping lacunae in your education and/or
logical ability.

Horse shit.... in those days only the upper class had to
WORRY about it because they were responsible for
the masses who couldn't even read... hence the elite were
the only ones who could be punished by God... since they
were the only ones who knew about it.

whaddaru a comedian too asshole?

There are blind people in heaven dude... being in a condition of
"eternal life" is sort of like having a continous never ending
orgasm.... it isn't dependent on sight.

There is no definitIon of "real" or of "reality" that does not involve
the opinion of a human being. Go ahead, try to
make an operational definition of "real" that does not involve
the opinion of a human being..... there IS NO SUCH DEFINITON.
Proof: If all men died tomorrow at 9 am, how could it be proved that
the Universe still existed at 9:01 am..... answer: It couldn't, therefore
in fact the Universe WOULDN'T EXIST at 9:01 am!!

Yes, but all of the "supposes" are scientifically possible, in fact,
they are even scientifically PROBABLE, given the fact of the
discovery of the SPOG by Hammond.

10^15 Hz.... in fact Frohlich's frequency which is in the
microwave band 10^12 is already well known in the brain
.... in fact optical signals have been recognized in the
interior of the microtubule skeletons in nerve cells.
This is 12 orders of magnitude above say neuronal
firing rate (thinking/brainwave frequency) making possible
a factor of 10^12 time dilation possible... which would
expand a millisecond into 5 years.
St Paul says in I Corintians ch 15 that we will be
changed "at the last trump, in the twinkling of an eye"
and we will be raised in a "spiritual body". According to
the above calculation the death dream could read out
in a millisecond (from all brain cells at simultaneously),
and thus would contain all necessary information
for a 5 year existence in a spiritual world of Life After
Death, no problem!

Yeah... but not in the real world body.... the real world body
can only fire neurons at 1 kc, this read out is at the
atomic/molecular structural level in the microtubules and
is a quantum mechanical phenomenon. It is not the
real world bodily consciousness that is vewing this
movie... is is a quantum mechanical consciousness
that is viewing it... the so called "spiritual body".

Actually you're full of shit too.
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Old 07-10-2006, 08:43 AM
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Hi George_Hammond, Good read, much better than your normal fare, I must say.
Looking at 1 Corinthians 15 ( KJV ), I see:

For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
why stand we in jeopardy every hour ? ... if the dead rise not ?
let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we die.

Then, you say, from the Book_of_the_Dead:

But some man will say, How are the dead raised up ?
and with what body do they come ?
Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die
Behold, I shew you a mystery;
We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed.....

This idea that the dead are merely sleeping, I realize you love it, but...

Isn't that something you'd tell your 4 year old to appease him ?
Isn't it rather retro ? unsophisticated.
All any ever did was burn bright, like a star, dissipating into the night.

As for time dilation...

The SI meter/second are both counts of oscillations of a certain cesium maser.
The SI kilogram could be measured the same way, in theory,
because there's also radiation pressure, not just a period and a wavelength.
At an _Ideal_ event horizon
( true event horizons/vacuums can't form, not enough energy to create them )
its SI second takes an eternity, so no time passes.
Likewise, its SI meter is infinitely wide, so no volume exists.
Finally, its SI kilogram is infinitely weak
( i.e. its SI radiation pressure is fully dissipated )
so infinite Relativistic_Mass exists.
So it's static and infinitely dense... both to us _And_ at the horizon.
The visible universe is on course to dissipate before it could fully form.
Similarly, our universe was once static and infinitely dense,
only the topology has always been flat ( euclidian ) in 4 dimensions,
it's only hyperbolic when you look at the fifth _Spatial_ dimension:

The length of the geodesic that goes from the earth
to the _Visible_ birth of the CMB.
Given dark energy has negative pressure, e = m * c^2,
Omega_Total always equals 1, Omega_Lambda always equals .74,
and w always equals -1 ( all in agreement with Lambda_CDM, I assume ),
we have:

Pressure_Cosmos always equals: - ( .74 / .26 ) * Density_Matter * c^2
( the positive pressure of radiation is insignificant ).
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Although this 5th dimension is spatial, demarcated in SI meters;
by conversions it can also be demarcated in pressure, heat, entropy and time.
The Units of entropy are Joules per Kelvin, but only the Kelvin changes;
so the entropy goes up as the temperature of the universe drops.
Think of entropy as a measure of how dissipated ( consumed ) something is.

Now... What does any of this have to do with Dreams/Eternal_Life ?

Just as a dice toss is known to be pseudorandom ( i.e. causal )
even when no one knows the outcome,
Einstein asserted that all randomness must be pseudorandom
so that time is pseudo-directional.
Scientific American, Sep 2002:

Einstein wrote:

But the scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation.
The future, to him, is every whit as necessary and determined as the past.


People like us, who believe in physics,
know that the distinction between past, present, and future
is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.

Consequently, he felt physical processes determined absolutely everything,
including man's desires, see: WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Physicalism .
Einstein said:

I do not believe in freedom of the will. Schopenhauer's words:

“ Man can do what he wants, but he cannot will what he wills ”

accompany me in all situations throughout my life and reconcile me with
the actions of others even if they are rather painful to me.

This awareness of the lack of freedom of will preserves me from
taking too seriously myself and my fellow men as
acting and deciding individuals and from losing my temper.

As for what the word God means:

Like you're God to the mice you raise to feed your snake,
...you're God's prisoner and God to your prisoners.
Entropy is the top God because, like a lit match,
consumption ( hence dissipation and entropy ) creates/destroys everything.

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