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Don1 11-08-2005 12:08 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Mass is just an accumulation, or body of matter, and inertia is its
measure.

Don


Clemens W 11-08-2005 06:58 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Don, with the intrinsic property of stupidity, wrote:

Admit it, Don: You're posting here for the laughs, yeah?

Or do you really think anybody still believes you?

After you stated that "2=1" and "1/(x/y) and y/x are not equal"?

BWA-HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA-HAA!

A. Friend


Starbles@Earthlink.net 11-08-2005 08:02 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
I think that the 2=1 thing was a joke. Also, ARE 1/(2/0) and 0/2 the
same thing?


Clemens W 11-08-2005 08:49 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] wrote:

No, I think Don was serious when he wrote:

Message-ID: <1130765806.724465.215760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>
| No, it would be [(vt-vt)=s/t=ft: Written more precisely as ft^2/s;
| which makes it equal to 2w/g; which is the mass of the body with a
| weight of w.

More errors in one paragraph than you can shake a stick at...


OK, me bad. I should have mentioned: for x,y <>0. However, even with
this restrictions, Don still believes - though he's been told otherwise
untold times - this equation to be invalid:

Message-ID: <1124910421.572468.194460@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>
|> The question is this: If you have a unit of the form
|> 1 X/(Y/Z) is this the same as 1 X*Z/Y?
|
|> The answer is yes, no matter what X, Y and Z are.
|
|NOT if either X, Y, or Z is a ratio.

Some other instances where Don showed his outstanding commandment of
7th grade physics:

Date Don Correct
04/11 m=w/(g/2) m=w/g
04/11 ft=s/t Ft=m*s/t
31/10 2w/g ... is the mass m=w/g
31/10 [(vt-vt)=s/t=ft v(t)-v(i)=s/t=Ft/m
04/10 ft^2/s=w/g Ft^2/2s=w/g
23/09 (vt-vi)/t^2=32'/sec^2 (vt-vi)/t=32'/sec^2
08/09 s=(g/2)t s=(g/2)t^2
05/09 (vt-vi)/t=2s/t^2=g/2 (vt-vi)/t=2s/t^2=g
27/08 ft/(vt-vi)=ft^2/s ft/(vt-vi)=ft^2/2s
23/08 a/2-16'/sec^2 g/2=16ft/sec^2
23/08 a-(vt-vi)/t a=(vt-vi)/t
12/06 g=(vt-vi)/t^2 g=(vt-vi)/t
12/06 (m)=ft/s/t m=Ft^2/2s
07/06 (m)=wa/fg m=F/a or m=w/g
28/05 1 slug = 32 ft sec^2/32 ft 1 slug = 32 lbf sec^2/32 ft
27/05 s=2(vt-vi)/t s=1/2(vt-vi)*t
21/05 1 slug = 1 lbf s^2/foot; _Not_ 1 slug = 1 lbf / (1 ft/s^2)
Don didn't even realize both equations are the same.

Personally, I believe Don is beyond any hope and lives in his own
little (and non-functional) world of physics. He won't stop posting,
so all you can do is mock him...

A. Friend


Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz 11-08-2005 05:04 PM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
In <1131433798.555984.40430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>, on
11/08/2005
at 12:02 AM, [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] said:


No; the first is meaningless WRT the reals and the second is 0. Now,
if you extend the reals then the answer will depend on just how you
extend them.

As an example, there is an extension of the reals called the two-point
compactification. Think of it as the reals augmented by +oo and -oo.
Now, if you want to extend the arithmetic operations you immediately
run into the question of whether you want 1/0 to be +oo or -oo. Pretty
much any extension of the arithmetic operations is going to violate
rules that you are used to relying on.

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Don1 11-09-2005 03:58 PM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Clemens W wrote:
SNIP<
Here my friends is where the whole house of cards falls: According to
"dimensional analysis", we must be able to cancel the superfluous
units. It can be done with 1 slug = 1 lbf s^2/foot; but not with 1
slug = 1 lbf / (1 ft/s^2).



Clemens W 11-09-2005 07:39 PM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Don showed his lack of understanding once again and wrote:

OK, let's get this straight:


1 slug = 1 slug
can be replaced with
1lbf * s^2/ft = 1 lbf / (1 ft/s^2)
divide by 1 lbf
1 s^2/ft = 1 / (1 ft/s^2)
device by 1 s^2
1 / ft = 1 / s^2 * 1 / (1 ft/s^2)
1 / ft = 1 / (1 s^2 * 1 ft/s^2)
1 / ft = 1 / ft
multiply with 1 ft
1 = 1

Now, Don, where's the error?

A. Friend


Don1 11-10-2005 03:12 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Clemens W wrote:
Don't tell me no one's going to call you on it?? There ought to be
stronger laws to deal with fakers like you.


Clemens W 11-10-2005 08:02 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Don1 wrote:

Aww, Donny, now please show me where the error is. Nobody could find it
but you...

A. Friend


Don1 11-10-2005 11:18 AM

Mass is neither an intrinsic property, or an element
 
Clemens W wrote:
Like ducks: Nobody's going to let go of that gravy boat to point out
the error. They're hanging on for dear life.



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