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EVOLUTION? Humbug!

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Old 10-20-2005, 03:20 PM
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First let me say THIS about THAT (the Evolution vs. Intelligent Design
court case in Harrisburg, Pa):
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Despite the wild, factless rhetoric uttered by members of the
Scientific Establishment -- in or out of court -- there is STILL not
one shred of physical evidence confirming that evolution is correct. If
you ask for it and you WON'T get it because it simply doesn't exist.
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Evolutionists have a pipe dream, maintaining such physical evidence
abounds, and they're doing so not so much to protect an erroneous
paradigm but to protect their vested interests.
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Let them say a single word that evolution "may not" be correct
and -- Bingo! -- they realize they'd be blackballed from ever again
having a nice soft ass-kissing position within the scientific
community. They'd most likely wind up selling apples on the corner.
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Now let us begin...
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Maestro, some Corruption Music, please.
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Photos show a petrified human femur embedded in slate
that was excavated during an open-pit mining operation
in Pennsylvania's anthracite region:
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PETRIFIED HUMAN FINGER AND TOE
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(Photo oduring Power Point presentation in Switzerland)
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Two Petrified Human Skulls (one embedded in boulder)
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Handcarved Tool/Weapon Handle (Turned to Anthracite)
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Other Petrified Specimens
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Yerkes Regional Primate Research Center
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American Medical Laboratories
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CATscan on petrified premolar
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Scanning Electron Microscopy on petrified tibia
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Presence of Haversian canals (Photo of tibia ground section)
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First let me say THIS about THAT (the Evolution vs. Intelligent Design
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Despite the wild, factless rhetoric

'Wild factless rhetoric' describes the below rather well

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Scientific Establishment -- in or out of court -- there is STILL not
one shred of physical evidence confirming that evolution is correct. If
you ask for it and you WON'T get it because it simply doesn't exist.
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Evolutionists have a pipe dream, maintaining such physical evidence
abounds, and they're doing so not so much to protect an erroneous
paradigm but to protect their vested interests.
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Let them say a single word that evolution "may not" be correct
and -- Bingo! -- they realize they'd be blackballed from ever again
having a nice soft ass-kissing position within the scientific
community. They'd most likely wind up selling apples on the corner.
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Maestro, some Corruption Music, please.
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Photos show a petrified human femur embedded in slate
that was excavated during an open-pit mining operation
in Pennsylvania's anthracite region:
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PETRIFIED HUMAN FINGER AND TOE
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(Photo oduring Power Point presentation in Switzerland)
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Two Petrified Human Skulls (one embedded in boulder)
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Handcarved Tool/Weapon Handle (Turned to Anthracite)
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Other Petrified Specimens
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CATscan on petrified premolar
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Presence of Haversian canals (Photo of tibia ground section)
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Old 10-20-2005, 04:52 PM
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Steve Ralph wrote:

I am reminded of US Senator Strom Thurmond who, while engaged in a
filibuster against the Civil Rights Act of 1957, started reading a
telephone directory into the Congressional Record because he had run
out of content but needed to use up as much time as possible. His
record of 24 hours and 18 minutes still stands.

Although there is no 'world record' for a text version of a filibuster,
with a little work our dear Mr. Ed could be a contender.

Tom Davidson
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:33 PM
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<[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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First let me say THIS about THAT (the Evolution vs. Intelligent Design
court case in Harrisburg, Pa):
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Despite the wild, factless rhetoric uttered by members of the
Scientific Establishment -- in or out of court -- there is STILL not
one shred of physical evidence confirming that evolution is correct. If
you ask for it and you WON'T get it because it simply doesn't exist.
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Evolutionists have a pipe dream, maintaining such physical evidence
abounds, and they're doing so not so much to protect an erroneous
paradigm but to protect their vested interests.
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Let them say a single word that evolution "may not" be correct
and -- Bingo! -- they realize they'd be blackballed from ever again
having a nice soft ass-kissing position within the scientific
community. They'd most likely wind up selling apples on the corner.

Does THIS sound familiar?
"My invisible buddy is better than your invisible buddy!"

At least scientist don't live by a book (the Bible) written and rewritten by
14 different author AND a abridged each time!
You are a dreamer living on hearsay.
If nothing else, evolutionist are NOT known for murdering MILLIONS
throughout history.
The same cannot be said for you Jesus-freaks!


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"Hü©klëßë®®ÿ Hö§hïmötö" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in
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Ed got bumped off talk.origins because of his harrassing, illiterate posts.
So now he is harrassing any newsgroup he can subscribe to. The best thing
to do is to killfile him.


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Old 10-21-2005, 12:44 AM
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I'm reluctant to get into this discussion, but I would like to pose a couple
of
questions:

1. How did free floating chemicals organize themselves into DNA? You can't
say
they evolved into DNA because there is no evolution without DNA to pass on
genetic information based on natural selection. And even if a lightning
bolt
produced a few strands of amino acid, that is far from a protein molecule
and
light years from a DNA system. Amino acids and proteins don't reproduce and
don't benefit from natural selection. Minerals-->Lightning-->Amino
acids-->End
of story.

2. The SETI project would go wild if they received a radio signal with the
first 10 digits of Pi. It would be taken as proof that intelligence
"designed"
the transmission. But when scientists look at the incredibly complex factory
within DNA -- which far exceeds any CPU in complexity -- they conclude that
it
occurred as a natural product of chance. Do you see any inconsistency here?

3. Is there more evidence for totally naturalistic mineral-to-DNA generation
than for an intelligent design explanation?

4. There are some scientists who believe life on earth was "seeded" from
meteorite activity. I believe that is an effort to avoid dealing with
question
1 above. Are you willing to consider seeding as a possible explanation for
terrestrial life?
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On 20-Oct-2005, 1983 Dead <zepp1983#2211finestplanet.com@> wrote:


So what? They can't replicate and pass on genetic information that would
"improve" the ice particles. How are you going to get from an ice particle
to the machinery in DNA?


Yes, and exactly how did that happen? What makes this "scientific"? Is it
reproducible? Is there any evidence that it actually happened or is this
just blind speculation that it might have happened? Wouldn't it be more
accurate to say "The most common guess..."?


I am very familiar with fractals and have written programs to generate them.
But the point of SETI is to identify patterns that are beyond a reasonable
threshold of having occurred naturally. I propose that if 10 digits of Pi
was considered evidence of intelligence, then the discovery of the genome
sequence would be conclusively accepted as the product of an intelligent
designer.
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Cowboy wrote:

There are multiple steps from reduced compounds to cyanogens to amino
acids to peptide chains to RNA fragments. Look up Miller-Urey
experiments, which showed that in an enriched atomsphere of reduced
compounds, amino acids can be created spontaneously with the addition
of energy.

The first several chapters of Biological Science, by Scott Freeman,
describes this chemistry quite nicely.


In stages, why, yes it is.



No, that would not be more accurate. Current knowledge about this is
based on *experimental* results.


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On 20-Oct-2005, "PD" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


I am very familiar with the Miller-Urey experiment, and I say again, so
what?

Amino acid is trivially simple compared to RNA or DNA. You have to join
amino acid in a chain and do folding to even produce protein. But even if
that happened by chance and you got a protein molecule, what happens then?
Protein can't reproduce, and it can't evolve because it's not alive. So it
floats around for a few hours and then gets oxidized and broken down. The
Miller-Urey experiments demonstrate the creation of amino acids, not life.


OK, please set up an experiment where amino acid forms DNA without
intelligent guidance and I'll be convinced.
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Dear Cowboy:

"Cowboy" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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.... folding is a given.


Bad guess. Look at the protein that causes "mad cow disease".


So viruses cannot evolve? Influenza can be cured by a single
injection, because it doesn't mutate?


Consider the environment in which MU is performed. Where would
the oxidizer come from, if plants were not present to release the
oxygen?


True.


Then:
1) it would have to be a government progam (no intelligence
there), or
2) we'd have to convince you that God didn't create that life, in
that "jar".

You won't be convinced.

David A. Smith


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