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Velocity is the frequency of unit displacement.

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Old 06-14-2005, 05:01 PM
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[EL]
Velocity is the frequency of unit displacement.
Within the very general concept of steady states, velocity is
internally a co-concept of inertia and both indicate constant states
within the temporal boundary of such a steady state.
To arbitrate a unit of measure for velocity, a unit of length and a
unit of time constitute the quantities being related. Although it seems
so to be correct it is not. velocity is the frequency of displacement.
Here we consider every motion to be a wave, where the wavelength is the
unit length and the rate is a frequency per unit time. Then velocity as
a physical expression must have the essence of "How frequently would a
moving entity traverse a unit wavelength".
We all know that one meter is an arbitrated unit of length, but we also
know that if we choose a high resolution unit then the figure of
significance and accuracy must increase.
By adopting the highest natural frequency wave as the foundation of the
metric, then both of length and time would gain the merits of
significance and accuracy while measuring coarser quantities.
Relativity came with a two opposing effects.
1- It spoiled the arbitrations.
2- It opened our eyes to possible deformations of the metric relative
to references.
By postulating that the velocity of light in vacuum is constant to all
inertial frames of reference, should then be obviously equivalent to
postulating that the frequency of unit-wavelength-displacement in
vacuum is constant in all inertial frames of reference. If such a
postulate was consistent with nature, then by observing frequency
shifts we must conclude that the relation between the source and the
observer may not be inertial. While if there was some way to be
absolutely sure that the relative frames of reference were inertial,
then we must conclude that the postulate was not consistent with
nature. We may also conclude that the velocity of light is practically
a variant that depends on the relative velocity of the source and the
observer expressed as a change in the frequency and not the wavelength.
However, by assuming that the frequency and the wavelength of light in
vacuum are covariants they may compensate and yield a constant ratio
once again.
In other words, the covariance of time and length scales in relativity
is an artefact of holding tight to the second postulate of SR. Then we
came to forget that our strategy was to model a system with which we
can pin down a metric of length and a metric of time that is constant
across coordinate systems, which is obviously what relativity failed to
accomplish. By losing confidence in the length of a meter and the time
interval of a second then what do we mean by meters per second! They do
not mean anything under the context of relativity as it is understood
today.
If the circumference of the tire in a car was one meter long and the
car was moving such that the tires complete 10 cycles per second then
the velocity of the car is 10m/s on the road; because velocity is the
frequency of a unit displacement. Now let an observer be on a train
moving at any arbitrary velocity but has the knowledge of the metrics
of the car, then the velocity of the car relative to the road as
observed by the train rider shall never change at any relativistic
concepts. If we assume that the train was moving with a velocity of
20m/s relative to the railway and in the same direction of the car,
which moves on a road parallel to the railway, then the train must be
10m/s faster than the car.
This Galilean relation of velocities is not wrong, because it is
founded on local measurements made in each frame then realising that
the railway and the road are the same ground frame from which an
observer determines that the care's velocity is 10m/s and that the
train's velocity is 20m/s.
The care as a moving frame would must relate to the train through the
common ground to be 10m/s faster, such that if the car was stationary
then that would be the speed of the train. Consequently, the train
rider would think that the car was moving backwards at a speed of
10m/s.
So what did relativity of SR and GR came to add to common sense!
It is a relativity of remote observation mediated by light, in which
the postulated constancy of the speed of that light is critical to the
theory. Then if we neglect remote observation, the Galilean
transformation must stand correct 100%. This is what every engineer
applies in every day life work.
Then who needs the relativity of Light!
Astronomers and fast particle physicists do need relativity for the
obvious reasons.
Such professions may not apply material yardsticks and clocks between
the observer and the being observed, hence it was inevitable to invent
a system that takes into consideration the apparent effects of light
speed in mediating the information.
Apparent effects means that nothing concluded by relativity can be real
at a level of empiricism.
Such a mental work is like a signal, which is vulnerable to noise and
misconception.

Therefore, time dilation and length contraction are not permanent
physical changes but visual deformations of remote information mediated
by light.

Kind regards to all.

EL

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Old 06-14-2005, 05:09 PM
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[Rest of post snipped because it is of equally low quality.]

Shash. Velocity is a vector quantity. Frequency is not.
Socks

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Old 06-14-2005, 05:19 PM
EL
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[Puppet_Sock wrote]
[EL]
But a spatial displacement is a vector quantity, and:
Vector * Scalar = Vector
Also the dimensional analysis exposes the fact:
[V] = [L].[T^-1]
Where
[V] is the derived dimension of velocity.
[L] is the length dimension of the displacement.
[T^-1] is the temporal dimension of frequency.

Now I wonder, how could an ignorant idiot like you expect to know all
of this information without reading what a professor writes to educate
the likes of you!
The loss is yours not mine.
Have an ignorant blissful life. ;-)

EL

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Old 06-14-2005, 05:31 PM
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Which means that at a sufficient level of temporal resolution (delta_t
<< 1/f) "velocity" describes an episodic phenomenon: sometimes there
will be a displacement during a time interval delta_t, and sometimes
there won't.

Acceleration becomes the time derivative of an impulse function.

The assignment of numerical values to velocity and acceleration becomes
fraudulent. The use of v and/or a in continuous functions becomes
impossible.

E pur si muove!

Sorry, EL.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

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Old 06-14-2005, 05:48 PM
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"Puppet_Sock" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1118768985.044931.316810@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...

Hemetis is a dementing troll.

Dirk Vdm


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Old 06-14-2005, 07:01 PM
EL
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[tadchem wrote]
[EL]
The scalar equivalent of the same function is:
c = nu * lambda.
Where;
c = speed of light
nu = frequency of light
lambda = wavelength of light
It is so amazing to see you and others attacking semantics of the
vector equivalent of a fact on which SR is founded.
If you did read further you would have found the car tire analogy.
However, I am very glad because you did attack relativity without
noticing it. ;-)
Read my article until the end and then tell me if I was consistent or
not.

Kind regards.

EL

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Old 06-14-2005, 07:32 PM
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Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

What does "dementing" mean here? Is he in the process of becoming more
demented, or is he causing others to become demented?

Paul Cardinale

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Old 06-14-2005, 07:37 PM
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"T'was brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe."

Idiot.

--
Uncle Al
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:55 PM
Dirk Van de moortel
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"Paul Cardinale" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1118777547.341949.213450@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

Good point, but I mean the former, but I'm sure he is
trying to accomplish the latter. It must be lonely up there.

Dirk Vdm


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Old 06-15-2005, 04:01 AM
EL
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Default Velocity is the frequency of unit displacement.

[Paul Cardinale wrote]
[EL]
Your objectiveness and verbosity demonstrates that you are as useful as
Orion in his stardom.
You know, Orion and his _dog_.
Nice to see at night but lame all day long.

EL

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