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| Y'know what? Technically speaking; when y'come right down to it, there is no such _thing_ as a weight. What many of us have been calling "weights", aren't. They are objects; bodies, and masses of material matter; that exert force and weight on each other. "Lifting weights" is a misnomer. What are actually lifted, are masses of matter that have some specific weight. All this hassle; for what? Masses are quantities of material matter, and weight is the force they exert on each other. Cheeze wiz anyways(:^)) Don |
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| "Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1111863506.631770.316310@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... Are you just retarded stupid or plain stupid? What on gods green earth do you think ANYONE gained from your little diatribe above? Technically speaking, you're not a person, you're a collection of chemicals worth about a buck. |
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| Morituri-|-Max wrote: there masses matter, earth do about Well I wasn't thinking about my worth; it just dawned on me that weight is not a _thing_, it is a force, and a force is not a thing in itself; it's just pressure (P), divided by the area (A) upon which it bears, and for an infinitly sharp point would be infinite. Where infinitely sharp is practically impossible, but is something to think about. Don |
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| On 26 Mar 2005 16:18:43 -0800, "Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote: That is precisely what is taught in physics classes starting with grade school. The SI units for weight are newtons, which are also the units of force. Whether 'force' is a concrete or abstract noun seems like a purely linguistic issue rather than belonging to physics. As you have just discovered, it is the latter, but what is the relevance of this discovery? --- Stan Liou Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- [Only registered users see links. ] |
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| "Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1111863506.631770.316310@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... In my opinion there is such a thing called "weight". Weight is just a more convenient term to represent the heaviness (force) of something. Example, asking "what the force of a packet of sugar" is sounds ambiguous, whereas asking "what the weight of a packet of sugar" is more comprehensible. |
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| Don1 wrote: there You are right, Don. We should clean up the language and call a mass a mass! When we buy a sack fertilizer, we want to know how much mass is there, not how much it weighs at sea level. The use of words has evolved down from less enlightened times when people didn't know the difference. If people knew the root meanings of many of the words they still use today, they would be amazed at what mumbo jumbo they are speaking! Double-A |
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| Double-A wrote: masses matter, a is Unless we've got to put it on our shoulder and carry it a ways. of |
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| Don1 wrote: there Congratulations, Don, you have it. The property that belongs to the physical object is mass, not weight. Weight is the strength of the *interaction* between the object (its mass) and another nearby massive object (usually the Earth). Slowly, but surely, it's becoming clearer in your mind. PD |
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| PD wrote: Don't get your water hot PD; I've known this all along: What I didn't know was that calling a _mass_ of matter a _weight_ was wrong, Now it remains to prove that ordinary weight scales - both balance and spring - measure the force we call weight, and (some) torsional balances are able to measure mass. Whether weight is a _property_ of mass or not, remains to be seen. Don |
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| PD wrote: Don't get your water hot PD; I've known this all along: What I didn't know was that calling a _mass_ of matter a _weight_ was wrong, Now it remains to prove that ordinary weight scales - both balance and spring - measure the force we call weight, and (some) torsional balances are able to measure mass. Whether weight is a _property_ of mass or not, remains to be seen. Don |
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