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| TripleEight wrote: seen. with distance this be a Are you telling us that properties are constants? Don |
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| PD wrote: and Oh yeah, I guess you did tell us that. Well, I tell you; I don't think that force _belongs_ to either one of them: It's the mutual force - acting and reacting - that each exerts on the other. A lighter body would exert less force than a heavier one: Therefore it _is_ a property of the body exerting the force, and varies depending on the acceleration of free fall (g) at the location where it is being exerted. Like I've been telling you: Mass (m) is equal to the ratios f/a and w/g! Force is [f = (m)a = (f/a)a]! Don |
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| "Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1112122380.771051.179770@l41g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... When I say "constant" I meant a property that is directly related to the matter; not constant in magnitude. "Property" means an attribute (of matter) that is characteristic of it's class. It's almost always "constant" and is independant of surrroundings. Now weight is not really owned by matter because weight is just an *external* influence (force) acted on the matter. |
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| "Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1112122157.345661.144810@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... No. You want weight to be a property of matter.. unlike mass, charge, spin, etc.. weight varies because it isn't something inherent to matter. It's an effect based on gravity. |
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| Morituri-|-Max wrote: charge, spin, It's an How about force: The force exerted on and/or by matter? Is it inherent to matter? Don |
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| "Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1112183833.372093.140010@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com... If you put this into outer space well away from any significant force fields there won't be forces or weights exerts on it. I think you're referring to matters' own force field, right? That I think could be debated on. |
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| Don1 wrote: inherent No, and this is important and it is poorly taught in most physics (and engineering classes). Forces are by nature mutual interactions between pairs of things. A cannot exert a force on B without B exerting an *identical* force on A. (Now the *response* of A and B to the same force may be different -- because A and B have different inertias, and the response is the ratio of force to inertia.) PD |
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| TripleEight wrote: inherent fields referring to Let's debate where in outer space there are no significant gravitational force fields. I'd like to go there and escape from the effects of gravity, on my next vacation(;^)) Don |
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| PD wrote: matter. (and between and I tend to agree. Don |
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| TripleEight wrote: inherent fields referring to Let's debate where in outer space there are no significant gravitational force fields. I'd like to go there and escape from the effects of gravity, on my next vacation(;^)) Don |
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