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Old 02-26-2005, 03:21 PM
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>From the feedback I'm getting regarding curved vectors, I think it's a
bad idea, and will henceforth use the terms "curved components" and
"straight vectors"; or perhaps just let it be implied that components
may be curved or straight, and vectors will always be straight.

In any case, the length depicts the magnitude, the curvature, or lack
thereof depicts the path, and the arrowhead at the end depicts the
direction at that end point.

While "Webster's" does not define a vector as being a straight line, it
seems to be that everyone thinks of them and uses them as straight
lines.

Traditionally, force, displacement and acceleration have been depicted
as straight vectors, and the average displacement of a moving body is
the resultant of two or more vectors. Even though the resultant (a
straight vector) does not depict the actual path of the body, it has
long been considered as representing its average displacement.

Since force, displacement and acceleraion actually vary in both
magnitude, and direction, they can best be depicted with curved
components; all drawn to scale:

The initial velocity of an object can be depicted with a straight
vector, oriented in a convenient, arbitrary direction from a point of
beginning, and its actual resultant path - the evolute - can be
depicted as the arc of an ellipse, also from that same point of
beginning.

The displacement, or displacements will emanate - as an involuted curve
- from a point or points along a straight tangent that is aligned with
the initial velocity vector to points on the resultant arc that are
equadistant from the point of beginning.

These three components form a geometric figure with three sides - two
curved and one tangent - and three angles: an apex angle with two right
angles opposite it. The shape of this figure remains the same
regardless of its size and extent.

Don

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Old 02-26-2005, 04:09 PM
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"Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Perhaps you should try a little Buddhism or similar?
It's not only a joke.

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Old 02-26-2005, 04:45 PM
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LeoK wrote:
it's a
components
lack
line, it
depicted
is
has
of
curve
with
two
right

What are you talking about Leo, or are you just joking?

Don

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Old 02-26-2005, 07:40 PM
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>> Perhaps you should try a little Buddhism or similar?



A joke, a distraction, whatever...

May the force be with you.

LeoK



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Old 02-26-2005, 10:12 PM
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However the "curved componant" is regarded as unity. unity is also depicted
as "1" but is really "0" The result "= 0" has plauged mathmatics for many
years. In the basic mathmatics the result is zero, nill, nothing, no result,
but in the complicated mathmatics regarding physics it is unity and unifies
the various componants. It's the mathmatics drawing a picture! As for the
componant in the physical world it is a ring.

In my world the "curved componant" is an armature.
Care to toy with unity?

v is the drive coils. the coils can be of different lengths and guage as
well as curved. however v is the motive force it is consistant through the
intire linear length of the coil. However the ring has a linear componant
depending on your vantage point along the "event horizon" and i use that
term very loosley as i'm not sure wheither the device is capable of that
kind of speed. but if it is capable of it than it would have it's own
gravitational effect. However i assume this is just one of many perks of
achieving unity.

Surely you must understand that "discovery by invention" has allways been
the
point when mankind confirms or disproves theories.

I came to these conclusions by conception, research and developement of a
device. not by trying to solve the mysteries of the universe.

Ring.


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Old 02-26-2005, 11:44 PM
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ring_theory wrote:
depicted
many
result,
unifies
the
as
through the
componant
that
that
perks of
been
of a

That so? How does it relate to this subject?

Don

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Old 02-27-2005, 12:02 AM
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"Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Bent vectors. Look them up in a book. (Hint: stress vectors that overdid it)

As for the Bhuddism, visualise the square root of minus one and you will
become free of the perceptual limitations of linear time

sR

SR




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Old 02-27-2005, 01:31 AM
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"ring_theory" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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depicted
result,
unifies

We appear to have encountered a new species of crank - the Unitarian. Like
others of the genre, its ignorance of mathematics and physics is exceeded by
its obsession to post and its compulsion to flaunt its ignorance.


Tom Davidson
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:49 AM
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tadchem wrote:
for many
no
for the
Like
exceeded by

Will you guys quit flamen' around and bee cerias(;^?

Don

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Old 02-27-2005, 08:00 AM
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"Don1" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Yes that's so.
It is the device that will assist mankind in resolving many unknown aspects
of physics. it's relavent to everything through the waveform. Including time
and everything involved in understanding and controlling it. However I don't
think we are ready for that. I'm not ready to design and construct one that
is remotely capable.

I think we better take small steps for now till we better understand the
complications of time and toying with it.

Ring


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