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| From a height of 1km meters maybe... Does a 1cm diameter ball (from ballbearing) from an airliner flying in the sky have enough energy to destroy a BMW engine? How do I calculate that? Will the shape of the ball affect the speed? Let's say I make its four surfaces all triangular... |
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| Jia Yu Cun wrote: in the The ball will accelerate until the rate at which it dissipates energy by stirring/heating the air (air resistance or friction) equals the rate at which gravity works on the ball by giving it kinetic energy. At the point the maximum kinetic energy is reached, the ball will fall no faster. The speed of the ball is called its "terminal velocity" - V. V depends on the weight W, the cross-sectional area A, the density rho and the drag coeffiecient C(d): V = sqrt(2*W/(C(d)*rho*A) The drag coefficient of a sphere can have a range of values [Only registered users see links. ] which, for a sphere, depend on a property called the Reynolds number Re [Only registered users see links. ] which in turn depends on the velocity V, the density rho, a 'characteristic length' l of the sphere, and the viscosity mu of the medium (in this case, air): Re = V * rho * l / mu Use your 1 cm diameter, a density for the steel ball of about 7.85 g.cm^3 [Only registered users see links. ] a specific gravity of 1 (SG rel air) for the surrounding medium and a viscosity of 0.0000173 N-s/m^2 [Only registered users see links. ] in the applet on this page: [Only registered users see links. ] I got a value of 43.4 m/s (142.5 ft/s) - about 97 mph. I've driven faster on a Harley. A good slingshot could launch your ball bearing as fast. While this *might* perforate the hood/bonnet of a Beamer and maybe even damage an engine part or three, I doubt it could *destroy* the engine. I certainly would not want it to hit me. four It will affect the drag coefficient - making it slower. See [Only registered users see links. ] Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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| > [Only registered users see links. ] Thanks for your reply. From this formula, the velocity is proportional to the square root of the diameterof the ball, thus the energy is power(diameter, 4). I guess a 2cm diameter steel ball will make so severe damage as to disable my BMW... How can I find out the maximum height that will reach the terminal velocity? What will be the temperature it will reach if I drop it from a 10km high airliner? Will this temperature severe the damage? If I design my object to be of a spear shape with a dent on one side to break the balance, when it drops, will it be in an almost vertical position and allow the pointer to dig deeper into my BMW? Thanks. |
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| Jia Yu Cun wrote: bearing as of the steel The applet I cited before gives a terminal velocity of about 61.4 m/s for a 2 cm steel ball in air. Thats about 41% faster. Combine that with the fact that the 2 cm ball has 8x the mass of a 1 cm ball and you get 16 times as much energy at terminal velocity, but only 4 times the area. The definitely adds up to more damage. velocity? First, there is no maximum height. The terminal velocity is an upper limit, so that no matter how high the ball is whan you *drop* it, it can never go faster than its terminal velocity - it is 'terminal' because the velocity cannot grow any more once it gets that large. Finding out how high it must be to reach a given velocity (below terminal velocity) by freely falling is an even trickier problem. It involves solving a non-linear differential equation because the resistance changes with the velocity. I am not prepared to try that here. Maybe later, when I have access to my personal library (I am at work now)...if you are really interested? I really can't answer that. Probably not. The damage will be caused by the kinetic energy of the ball: K.E. = (1/2)*m*v^2 The greatest contribution to damage from the heat of the ball would be if it punctured the fuel tank and was hot enough to ignite the fuel. to pointer to If you look at the shapes on [Only registered users see links. ] you will see that the one that has the lowest drag coefficient (and therefore the highest terminal velocity) is the airfoil shape. If you look at it as a 3-D object, it becomes the classic "teardrop" shape that was so popular in 1940's automotive designs. The highest velocity will give you the highest kinetic energy for a body of a given mass (as the equation above implies). The highest kinetic energy per cross-sectional area will give you the most penetration. Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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| Yeah! I am really interested in the mathematics, be it calculus or ODE or what... I am sure spear shape is better than teardrop shape...as the fastest aircrafts all have pointed heads...e.g. Concorde...Slow ones like Boeing have teardrops... Can you help me posting here your libraries? Thanks. "tadchem" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1104410543.685269.238840@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... |
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| Fat Cat wrote: ODE or teardrops... The teardrop shape shown on this link [Only registered users see links. ] is the shape that has the lowest Cd Note that the flow is from the left, so that the blunt end of the teardrop is in front. The Concorde and all other supersonic craft are in powered flight. Remember the stipulation of 'free falling'? It's in the subject header for this thread. The leading point is a specific requirement for supersonic flight. Terminal velocity is not an absolute upper speed limit. It represents a *final* value for a free falling body. Projectiles that are moving at speeds above their terminal velocity (bullets, artillery shells, meteors) will gradually slow down until they reach terminal velocity - assuming an unimpeded fall. My favorite library is [Only registered users see links. ] Beyond that I have recently reduced my personal collection of dead tree editions to a few thousand volumes (about three rooms of my current home). Most of the overage was donated to a small municipal library in Colorado. What in particular were you interested in? I believe I have a couple shelves of math textbooks. Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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| Dear Fat Cat: "Fat Cat" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:41db9aac$[Only registered users see links. ].sg... Just to add a couple of words to Tom Davidson's excellent response... The teardrop shape is affected by rain as it falls. It is a balance between gravity, higher pressure air in front, lower pressure air in back, and the affinity of water for itself ("surface tension"). Note that a wing is almost always shaped like a stretched teardrop... in cross section Most aircraft are shaped like straightened bananas. You are correct the tapered front of an air plane is important, as this helps minimize "boundary layer separation". This does not limit how wide the body can get... only the number of passengers and amount of fuel do this. The tapered back is important also, as this maximizes the amount of pressure the air can deliver to the rear of the body. Phrases in quotes can be used in Tom's favorite library... David A. Smith |
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| Well, thank you for your reply. I think you corrected my misconception that the drag on an aircraft is mainly caused the area of the cross section head. Okie, assume it be true. Here is my question: In my childhood, we kids play all sorts of swords. They were of Maru type but the blade is much sharper(3 degrees and thickness is 5mm). When I cut water with it, the strength needed was much less than chopping water with the rounded back. I am sure, the same phenomenon will be expected with the wings of an aircraft... http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/terms/mune.gif How does your pressure theory explain this phenomenon? Thank you. "N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:adSCd.21661$CH5.17472@fed1read01... or wing |
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| Thank you Tom. The Google advanced search is helpful. If your collection is of hardcopy type, then give it a miss. I am sure I can find some materials online, though it will take me some time to find the correct chapter of any fluid mechanics book as I am not mechanical engineer... Thanks anyway. "tadchem" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:1104928554.669836.293780@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com... |
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