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Old 07-23-2003, 12:37 PM
Donald G. Shead
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Just suppose I'm right, and physics doesn't need the calculus, and all that
jazz: What will you mugs do with all your free time?


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Old 07-23-2003, 02:07 PM
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Dear Donald G. Shead:

"Donald G. Shead" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Fight off the diseases, and look for ways to deal with the Church... just
like it was before Newton. The man who "invented" (or co-invented) it.

David A. Smith


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Old 07-23-2003, 05:13 PM
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"Donald G. Shead" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Physics doesn't need you either.


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Old 07-23-2003, 05:17 PM
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"[Only registered users see links. ] (formerly)" <dlzc1.cox@net> wrote in message
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Very good Dave; do you suppose everybody will do the same?


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Old 07-23-2003, 05:45 PM
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Hay Ron: I didn't say anything about pysics not needing _you_.


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Old 07-23-2003, 06:43 PM
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"Donald G. Shead" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Is this a new form of Physics, what is it called "Physics for the
mathematically clueless" or can we just call it "Sheadtonian Physics"


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Old 07-24-2003, 12:31 AM
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Dear Donald G. Shead:

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You are discussing de-evolution. The jobs that have evolved to support the
mass of humanity that exists, require more complex tools. If the tools are
gone, a lot of people are going to go hungry. So disease will become
rampant.

Once the tools necessary to handle the Universe in a "logical" manner are
gone, and disease crops up, the Church will have ever more converts. So it
will have a say in more and more of existence for the rest of us.

I don't see a pleasantly-paved road in reverse, no.

David A. Smith


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Old 07-24-2003, 01:27 AM
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Michael Russell wrote:


Have you seen the new book "Non Mathematical Physics for Shit Heads"?

Bob Kolker

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Old 07-24-2003, 01:32 AM
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Donald G. Shead wrote:


****ing idiot. Calculus was not invented for amusement. It was invented
to precisely describe motions and changes to motions. Newton's second
law can be stated F = dp/dt where p is the momentum and F stands for
force. This equation is the very gut of Newtonian mechanics. Newton's
theory would not exist without Newton's (or Leibniz) Calculus or
something mathematically equivalent.

The central method for coming up with force laws and field equations is
to extremize the action integral usually defined in terms of a
Langrangian function. For this you need a form of calculus for solving
extremal problems in functionals. This is the so-called calculus of
variations. You can't do physics without it, or something mathematically
equivalent.

Now you can stop being a putz and learn some math or keep on being a
putz, but please do it in silence.

Bob Kolker


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Old 07-24-2003, 02:04 AM
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"Robert J. Kolker" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Cut<
Newton's second
The equation F = dp/dt reduces to F = f + uw = p/t: When there's no friction
or other resistance it is f = p/t = ft/t = f !!

Newton and liebnitz didn't know that they needed a Lagrangian function:
that's something that's been added to make things more interesting:

As soon as you stop and realize what you're talking about: That it's
Horsefeathers.


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