What is life II? Not.

[danfive]

Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo

It may be a strong possibility that nothing was ever created or evolved. We may simply be following a trail that was already there, like water running the easiest course it can take. Consider that time is merely a wave, and just like the ocean, there is a wave ahead of us and a wave behind as, the same things are repeating over and over again, we just can't see it very easily. Have you ever noted how similar the DNA shape is to a light wave? Ideas to consider. They could explain a lot of things, worth the pondering.

Are you a creationist?

[Jozen-Bo]

Originally Posted by danfive

Are you a creationist?

It may be a strong possibility that nothing was ever created or evolved.

If this is anything to go by, no. Nor am I an evolutionist. Personally, I believe that the two complement each other within the confines of the relative universe. In the Absolute Universe, there is no such thing as creation or evolution. This is nothing to create and nothing to evolve. Everything is already there. Off course, I am sharing my personal views, something all of us possess to some extent or another.

[danfive]

Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo

It may be a strong possibility that nothing was ever created or evolved.

If this is anything to go by, no. Nor am I an evolutionist. Personally, I believe that the two complement each other within the confines of the relative universe. In the Absolute Universe, there is no such thing as creation or evolution. This is nothing to create and nothing to evolve. Everything is already there. Off course, I am sharing my personal views, something all of us possess to some extent or another.

Not a creationist. I had to ask.

Back to the topic, First I don't understand relative/absolute universe, elaborate if you care to. But to this statement "This is nothing to create and nothing to evolve. Everything is already there." The same thing was said about inventions and patents in 1900. It went something like, Everything is already invented. Obviously not true.

[Jozen-Bo]

Originally Posted by danfive

Not a creationist and not trolling. I had to ask.

Back to the topic, First I don't understand relative/absolute universe, elaborate if you care to. But to this statement "This is nothing to create and nothing to evolve. Everything is already there." The same thing was said about inventions and patents in 1900. It went something like, Everything is already invented. Obviously not true.

I should begin be clarifying the difference between the relative and absolute universe. The relative universe is rooted in the Absolute Universe. In the Absolute, all potential and all manifestation are present. Energy is infinite at any point, meaning there is no point to define. It is a rather difficult subject, maybe we will figure out a way to test for it? Aside, it is the absolution of all possibilities.

Let me use now as an example. A minute ago we were here, and now we are here in the now. The passing minute was there, it is plain and obvious to anyone with half a mind. We cannot access it anymore, but that doesn't mean it never happened. If we take each second and freeze it, we have relative parts to measure against each other, our scales work. If we take all of these seconds and mash them together, we get a blur, which is more difficult to measure. Now, if we throw in the potentials of what we might have done, did I go left or right, all the way back and all the way forward, we no longer have a blur, but an absolution of everything. There is nothing more to observe, because there are no spaces. Explaining the Absolute isn't always easy.

I'll try again. Relative...5 minutes ago. Absolute...all time mashed together. We might compare a human to the relative and the planet to the Absolute, though the Absolute has no size. Size is a relative term. It cannot exist without something to compare itself to.

As to inventions, we find ourselves bound to a relative existence. We will die. This does not mean that the Absolute does not exist, though it is hard for us to understand or find proof of its existence, especially because we are talking about something that is absolutely impossible to measure by its very nature. Thus, in a relative confinement, we can indeed invent. But if we expand our perspective to the Absolute, we can't even think an original thought, there is no such thing as novelty from this perspective. If everything were Absolute, nothing could exist at all. The relative universe is itself relative to the Absolute. Just as you cannot have big without small, you cannot have relativity with Absolution. Its a paradox.

[Jozen-Bo]

I thought I might try to provide this answer, as I feel it may ultimately tie into the topic and it certainly ties into the opening.

I should begin be clarifying the difference between the relative and absolute universe. The relative universe is rooted in the Absolute Universe. In the Absolute, all potential and all manifestation are present. Energy is infinite at any point, meaning there is no point to define. It is a rather difficult subject, maybe we will figure out a way to test for it? Aside, it is the absolution of all possibilities.

Let me use now as an example. A minute ago we were here, and now we are here in the now. The passing minute was there, it is plain and obvious to anyone with half a mind. We cannot access it anymore, but that doesn't mean it never happened. If we take each second and freeze it, we have relative parts to measure against each other, our scales work. If we take all of these seconds and mash them together, we get a blur, which is more difficult to measure. Now, if we throw in the potentials of what we might have done, did I go left or right, all the way back and all the way forward, we no longer have a blur, but an absolution of everything. There is nothing more to observe, because there are no spaces. Explaining the Absolute isn't always easy.

I'll try again. Relative...5 minutes ago. Absolute...all time mashed together. We might compare a human to the relative and the planet to the Absolute, though the Absolute has no size. Size is a relative term. It cannot exist without something to compare itself to.

As to inventions, we find ourselves bound to a relative existence. We will die. This does not mean that the Absolute does not exist, though it is hard for us to understand or find proof of its existence, especially because we are talking about something that is absolutely impossible to measure by its very nature. Thus, in a relative confinement, we can indeed invent. But if we expand our perspective to the Absolute, we can't even think an original thought, there is no such thing as novelty from this perspective. If everything were Absolute, nothing could exist at all. The relative universe is itself relative to the Absolute. Just as you cannot have big without small, you cannot have relativity with Absolution. Its a paradox.