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			<title><![CDATA[Noetic Sciences - Scientific proof of the soul.. what's your take??]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Yesterday after my exams I got time to read the novel 'The Lost Symbol' by Dan Brown. 
 
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<div>Yesterday after my exams I got time to read the novel 'The Lost Symbol' by Dan Brown.<br />
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It mentioned the <b>Noetic</b> sciences,and there's this scientist called Katherine who's apparently doing ground-breaking research in this field.<br />
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She conducts an experiment on a dying person who's put in some kind of machine box which measures a person's weight upto some picograms accuracy or something like that.<br />
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When the person dies the machine box,(he says goodbye to his wife n all.. blah blah), there is a change in weight of the person which is recorded by the box.<br />
As soon as he dies a very small decrease in weight is noticed for a second. A <b>very very small decrease but a change nonetheless and then the apparent conclusion is that she has measured the <u>weight</u> of the <u>human soul</u>.<br />
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There's some info on the theory that the human soul has mass just as everything else in the universe has some mass.<br />
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<b>She gives this example:</b><br />
A grain of sand alone has no significant mass(relative to us) and has a tiny gravitational force, <b>but</b> millions of particles together form huge masses.<b>Ex: </b>The moon which has gravity is powerful enough to influence ocean tides on the earth.<br />
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Likewise the soul has some weight and if we think long and hard enough provided we have a high level of knowledge (spiritual enlightenment ) then we can literally cause <b>physical change</b> in matter.<br />
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And this is how it is how spiritual healers and even Jesus Christ healed people by directly sending energy coursing through their bodies into the patients by touching them.<br />
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We know that we have energy to do things but don't know how to channel it out.<br />
Jesus was spiritually enlightened so that he knew the power of the mind and soul.<br />
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Now what's your opinion on this? Do you all think its possible. Everyone's views are welcome.<br />
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You may want to see this video too<br />
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The institute of Noetic Sciences website:<br />
<a href="http://www.noetic.org/" target="_blank">http://www.noetic.org/</a></div>


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			<title>Scientific proof of no god</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:46:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[See, "The Logic of the Universe", located at: members.westnet.conm.au/paradigm/forever.pdf]]></description>
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<div>See, &quot;The Logic of the Universe&quot;, located at: members.westnet.conm.au/paradigm/forever.pdf</div>


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			<title>Formal logical proof for an Intelligent Creator</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:26:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>According to science our universe has a beginning. (search at “age of the universe” on (in the scientific journal Pnas). Time is a physical unit....</description>
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<div>According to science our universe has a beginning. (search at “age of the universe” on (in the scientific journal Pnas). Time is a physical unit. Therefore there can be no such thing as time external to the physical universe. Timespace has a beginning.<br />
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It is a fundamental law of physics (causality) that every physical occurrence in the universe has a cause.<br />
The fundamental laws of physics then require a cause of the universe ex nihilo (since timespace has a beginning); i.e., a Prime Cause Singularity that is non-dimensional and independent of timespace.<br />
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Being logically consistent (orderly), the perfectly-orderly universe must mirror its Prime Cause / Singularity-Creator—Who must be Perfectly Orderly; i.e. Perfect. Therefore, no intelligent person can ignore that our purpose and challenge in life is learning how we, as imperfect humans, may successfully relate to a Perfect Singularity-Creator without our co-mingling, which transcends the timespace of this dimensional physical universe, becoming an imperfection to the Perfect Singularity-Creator.<br />
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An orderly—&quot;not capricious,&quot; as Einstein put it—Creator (also implying Just), therefore, necessarily had an Intelligent Purpose in creating this universe and us within it and, being Just and Orderly, necessarily placed an explanation, a &quot;Life's Instruction Manual,&quot; within the reach of His subjects—humankind.<br />
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It defies the orderliness (logic / mathematics) of both the universe and Perfection of its Creator to assert that humanity was (contrary to His Tor•âh&#8242; , see below) without any means of rapproachment until millennia after the first couple in recorded history as well as millennia after Abraham, Moses and the prophets. Therefore, the Creator's &quot;Life's Instruction Manual&quot; has been available to man at least since the beginning of recorded history. The only enduring document of this kind is the Tor•âh&#8242; —which, interestingly, translates to &quot;Instruction&quot; (not &quot;law&quot; as popularly alleged). (Source and further reading of how to relate to the Creator: Netzarim - google at it; make sure it is in Ra'anana in Israel).<br />
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The fact that the Creator is perfect implies that He isn’t self-contradictory. Therefore any religion that contradicts Torah is the antithesis to the Creator.</div>


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