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| anyone here who could tell me how to synthesise VX? .... and I´m not really looking for a "YES" as an answer :-) |
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| "Peter Mueller" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:401c08ab$0$17558$[Only registered users see links. ]... Hey, Mueller you *will* "fahr zur Hoelle" when/if you try to make VX -- O-ethyl S-(2-diisopropylaminoethyl) methylphosphonothioate. But it is extraordinarily easy to make, if you know what you are doing: VX is [(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-S-P*(=O),*-CH3,*-O-C2H5, ---- (1) to which you get in principle and formally via the following steps: Starting with the Arbusov reaction (EtO)3P + CH3I ---> EtI + (EtO)2>P*(=O),*-(CH3) ---- (2) Now, in a second step your react (2) with [(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-SH and you get your desired (1) via [(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-SH + (EtO)2>P*(=O),*-(CH3) ---> [(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-S-P*(=O),*-CH3,*-O-C2H5 + EtOH So, Mueller, now, before you fahr zur Hoelle yourself you should check for VX - or google for - synthesis of VX nerve gas agent -- 1,880 hits. Here, the government tells you ALL you want to know in [Only registered users see links. ] like that 10 mg/m^3 per min will make you puke/shit/piss and puff - not necessarily in that order. They even tell you when you make VX that " Latex gloves are not adequate protection" as in [Only registered users see links. ]. Now, assuming that you have taken all the precautions and get ready to synthesize it then you'd go to the next hurdle. If you attempt to buy any of the following precursor chemicals, then the man is gonna come and lock you up, totally incommunicado, for an indefinite and unspecified time..... a little bit like your own handle says: "fahr zur Hoelle" ....a trip to hell.......... even just for asking someone to buy -- Diethyl methylphosphonite -- Diisopropylaminoethyl chloride -- Ethyl hydrogen methylphosphonite -- Methylphosphonous dichloride -- Methylphosphonothioic dichloride etc, .... and if you are not a registered *.inc then they'll blow the whistle on you even if you try to get Phosphorus pentasulfide or Phosphorus trichloride. --- Now, Mueller, even if you evade the whistle blowers and the man, you still are not yet in biz. Because if you start doing that thing in your garage or basement you will stink up the entire neighborhood so bad and persistent that your old farts and neighbors will come by in great anger and irateness and beat your ass. ahahahahaha.........ahahahahaha...... So, why I am telling you all these bulsherations? --- Because, I like little inquisitive dudes like you. Your type of youngsters are precious. You have shown interest in chemistry. You are our future chemists. ---- So, let me tell you, dude(s) CHEMISTRY, particularly preparative chemistry is BITCHEN, man. There is no other job where you can truly make new things, materials that no person has ever seen before. Go study chemistry earnestly and you will have opportunities at jobs that have adventure AND money at the same time, like in the fields of making ** synthetic Diamond **, prospecting for **precious metal** in far-flung stray corners of the world, producing **synthetic blood**, *Bio engineering* trees, that thrive in the northern tundra, etc., etc., all things that are much, much more interesting then wasting your time to make some shit that kills people. So, redirect your trip to hell by 180° and roll for the fields of adventure and money.... CHEMISTRY. Take care you dumbshit, but enjoy chemistry and **** enviros! hanson |
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| Well, please come down! And congratulations! I’m far from messing with VX. Actually I’m doing a research if one can get enough information on the web to produce WMD. You just scored real big and made it on the podium!!! Assuming this post was the immature doing of some kids was intended and sort of backfired on you, I guess............ ;-) Of course for my research I am grateful for you post, but maybe you should dispense such knowledge more carefully? By the way, I have a decade worth of experience as a nbc-defence officer including work with live VX-agents -- I know what those suckers do! "Peter" "hanson" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:%L_Sb.5515$[Only registered users see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net... someone your |
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| "hanson" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<%L_Sb.5515$[Only registered users see links. ].pas.earth link.net>... Hanson, A thought provoking article, which diverts an inquistive mind to constructive ideas. Your "sermon"(don't take it literally, I can not find an appropiate word for your post) contains a lesson for those who use chemistry to drive people to heaven or hell-(fahr zur Hoelle )! |
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| On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 17:38:01 +0100, "Peter Mueller" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote: What remains of that silly little thing called freedom of speech? Also, it probably provides an easy means of keeping track of potential whackos. I would imagine the really dangerous whackos use more sophisticated means to obtain and transfer information. Domain Name:ROGUESCI.ORG Created On:04-Mar-2002 04:53:01 UTC Last Updated On:08-Oct-2003 09:25:39 UTC Expiration Date:04-Mar-2004 04:53:01 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR Status:OK Registrant ID:tuGpUXYz68NBa4Zv Registrant Name:Anthony NA Registrant Organization:roguesci.org Registrant Street1:NA Registrant City:NA Registrant State/Province:NA Registrant Postal Code:NA Registrant Country:GB Registrant Phone:+44.12345678910 Registrant Email:[Only registered users see links. ] Admin ID:tuGpUXYz68NBa4Zv Admin Name:Anthony NA Admin Organization:roguesci.org Admin Street1:NA Admin City:NA Admin State/Province:NA Admin Postal Code:NA Admin Country:GB Admin Phone:+44.12345678910 Admin Email:[Only registered users see links. ] Tech ID:tuGpUXYz68NBa4Zv Tech Name:Anthony NA Tech Organization:roguesci.org Tech Street1:NA Tech City:NA Tech State/Province:NA Tech Postal Code:NA Tech Country:GB Tech Phone:+44.12345678910 Tech Email:[Only registered users see links. ] Name Server:NS1.QWKNETLLC.COM Name Server:NS2.QWKNETLLC.COM Seems like they are pretending to be from England but the website is hosted in Idaho (big surprise there, eh?). Registrant: QWK.Net, LLC 10221 W. Emerald Suite 140 Boise, ID 83704 US Domain name: QWKNETLLC.COM Administrative Contact: Burnside, Travis [Only registered users see links. ] 10221 W. Emerald Suite 140 Boise, ID 83704 US 208-342-4062 Technical Contact: Burnside, Travis [Only registered users see links. ] 10221 W. Emerald Suite 140 Boise, ID 83704 US 208-342-4062 Registration Service Provider: QWK.Net Hosting, LLC, [Only registered users see links. ] 866 679 5638 208 522 0435 (fax) [Only registered users see links. ] This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords, DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions. Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 03-Sep-2003. Record expires on 21-Mar-2009. Record created on 21-Mar-2001. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.QWKNETLLC.COM 209.161.31.2 NS2.QWKNETLLC.COM 209.161.31.66 |
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