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Old 01-31-2004, 07:57 PM
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anyone here who could tell me how to synthesise VX?

.... and I´m not really looking for a "YES" as an answer :-)


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Old 01-31-2004, 11:33 PM
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"Peter Mueller" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<401c08ab$0$17558$[Only registered users see links. ]>...

OK THEN, - - - NO.
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:54 AM
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"Peter Mueller" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
news:401c08ab$0$17558$[Only registered users see links. ]...
Hey, Mueller you *will* "fahr zur Hoelle" when/if you try to make
VX -- O-ethyl S-(2-diisopropylaminoethyl) methylphosphonothioate.
But it is extraordinarily easy to make, if you know what you are
doing: VX is
[(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-S-P*(=O),*-CH3,*-O-C2H5, ---- (1)
to which you get in principle and formally via the following steps:
Starting with the Arbusov reaction
(EtO)3P + CH3I ---> EtI + (EtO)2>P*(=O),*-(CH3) ---- (2)
Now, in a second step your react (2) with
[(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-SH and you get your desired (1) via
[(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-SH + (EtO)2>P*(=O),*-(CH3) --->
[(CH3)2>CH-]2 >N-C2H4-S-P*(=O),*-CH3,*-O-C2H5 + EtOH

So, Mueller, now, before you fahr zur Hoelle yourself you should
check for VX - or google for - synthesis of VX nerve gas agent --
1,880 hits. Here, the government tells you ALL you want to know in
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like that 10 mg/m^3 per min will make you puke/shit/piss and puff
- not necessarily in that order. They even tell you when you make VX
that " Latex gloves are not adequate protection" as in
[Only registered users see links. ]. Now, assuming
that you have taken all the precautions and get ready to
synthesize it then you'd go to the next hurdle. If you attempt to buy
any of the following precursor chemicals, then the man is gonna come
and lock you up, totally incommunicado, for an indefinite and
unspecified time..... a little bit like your own handle says:
"fahr zur Hoelle" ....a trip to hell.......... even just for asking someone
to buy -- Diethyl methylphosphonite -- Diisopropylaminoethyl chloride --
Ethyl hydrogen methylphosphonite -- Methylphosphonous dichloride --
Methylphosphonothioic dichloride etc, .... and if you are not a registered
*.inc then they'll blow the whistle on you even if you try to get
Phosphorus pentasulfide or Phosphorus trichloride. ---
Now, Mueller, even if you evade the whistle blowers and the man,
you still are not yet in biz. Because if you start doing that thing in your
garage or basement you will stink up the entire neighborhood so bad
and persistent that your old farts and neighbors will come by in great
anger and irateness and beat your ass.
ahahahahaha.........ahahahahaha......
So, why I am telling you all these bulsherations? --- Because,
I like little inquisitive dudes like you. Your type of youngsters are
precious. You have shown interest in chemistry. You are our future
chemists. ---- So, let me tell you, dude(s)
CHEMISTRY, particularly preparative chemistry is BITCHEN, man.
There is no other job where you can truly make new things, materials
that no person has ever seen before. Go study chemistry earnestly
and you will have opportunities at jobs that have adventure AND money
at the same time, like in the fields of making ** synthetic Diamond **,
prospecting for **precious metal** in far-flung stray corners of
the world, producing **synthetic blood**, *Bio engineering* trees,
that thrive in the northern tundra, etc., etc., all things that are much,
much more interesting then wasting your time to make some shit that
kills people. So, redirect your trip to hell by 180° and roll for the
fields of adventure and money.... CHEMISTRY.
Take care you dumbshit, but enjoy chemistry and **** enviros!
hanson








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Old 02-01-2004, 05:23 AM
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"Peter Mueller" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<401c08ab$0$17558$[Only registered users see links. ]>...

OOH, so mysterious. To be pondered by the elders.
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:47 AM
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Well, please come down!



And congratulations!



I’m far from messing with VX. Actually I’m doing a research if one can get
enough information on the web to produce WMD.

You just scored real big and made it on the podium!!!



Assuming this post was the immature doing of some kids was intended and sort
of backfired on you, I guess............ ;-)

Of course for my research I am grateful for you post, but maybe you should
dispense such knowledge more carefully?



By the way, I have a decade worth of experience as a nbc-defence officer
including work with live VX-agents -- I know what those suckers do!



"Peter"

"hanson" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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someone
your


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Old 02-01-2004, 11:53 AM
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"hanson" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<%L_Sb.5515$[Only registered users see links. ].pas.earth link.net>...

Hanson,
A thought provoking article, which diverts an inquistive mind to
constructive ideas. Your "sermon"(don't take it literally, I can not
find an appropiate word for your post) contains a lesson for those who
use chemistry to drive people to heaven or hell-(fahr zur Hoelle )!
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:51 PM
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"Peter Mueller" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

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Old 02-01-2004, 03:54 PM
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:51:14 GMT, bob <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


I didn't register so I'm not sure how much good stuff is there. This
came from one of their archives that google found (no sign in needed):

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Old 02-01-2004, 04:38 PM
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Thank for the hint, I´ve already been up and down that one - wonder why it´s
still allowed to be online.........


"bob" <[Only registered users see links. ]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[Only registered users see links. ]...
should


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Old 02-01-2004, 05:26 PM
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 17:38:01 +0100, "Peter Mueller"
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What remains of that silly little thing called freedom of speech?

Also, it probably provides an easy means of keeping track of potential
whackos. I would imagine the really dangerous whackos use more
sophisticated means to obtain and transfer information.

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Seems like they are pretending to be from England but the website is
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