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| I am looking for some covalent modifications that can be done to either diphenylacetylene(DPA) or biphenyl (target substrates in our research) to increase their aqueous solubility in E.coli growth system.. So far, I have modified biphenyl to sulfonatedbiphenyl (obtained commercially as biphenylsulfonic acid). However, due to larger polarity of sulfonic group, the molecule as a whole is unable to enter the inner part of the cell. Currently, I am working with surfactants to enhance the solubility of DPA and also aid in their transport. Could you suggest some me some substrate covalent modifications to biphenyl. Thankyou for your time. |
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| sweetysom <[Only registered users see links. ]> said: Attach glycine or alanine (several protected forms of biphenylalanine are commercially available). Now you can attach various additional peptide residues to affect targetting, transport properties, etc. Attach a polyether (both 2- and 4-biphenylmethanol are commercially available, or could attach as a sulfonate ester to commercially available biphenyl-4-SO2Cl). dan -- Daniel Macks [Only registered users see links. ] [Only registered users see links. ] |
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| [Only registered users see links. ] (sweetysom) wrote: There are lots and lots of things you could attach. Most polar moieties will improve aqueous solubility. But there is a tradeoff: high polarity / low clogP / ionization, which act to increase solubility, are also associated with decreased lipid bilayer permeability (as you discovered with the sulfonate derivative). So you have to play a balancing act. Usually the "sweet spot" between adequate solubility and membrane permeability can only be determined empirically. I would suggest looking at substitution with amino groups (can be done in two steps via nitration and reduction) or carboxylic acid(s) (commercially available). Steve Turner Real address contains worldnet instead of spamnet |
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| Steve Turner <[Only registered users see links. ].net> wrote in message news:<[Only registered users see links. ]>. .. Thankyou very much. I missed one point to be mentioned. The final product after biocatalysis is Hydroxybiphenyl (HBP) from biphenyl. Any modification made to biphenyl should also allow me to remove the attachment at the end and get the desired product, HBP. As in the case with sulfonation, although the product after biocatalysis is Hydroxysulfonic biphenyl, it is easy to desulfonate. So is it possible with nitration or reduction. If so, can u mention any references in this case or references for covalent modification. Regards, Sweetysom |
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| "Daniel E. Macks" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered users see links. ]>... Thankyou very much. My final desired product being Hydroxy biphenyl (HBP) from biphenyl, is it possible to remove the attachments that you mentioned and get the desired product. As in the case of sulfonation, the sulfonated hydroxy product can be desulfonated and the final product can be obtained. Can you mention some references in this case or for covalent modifications? Regards, Sweetysom |
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| [Only registered users see links. ] (sweetysom) wrote: So the overall goal is an biocatalyic method of producing hydroxybiphenyl on a commercial scale??? I think maybe I'd look at chemical methods. An aromatic amine (aniline) function can be removed by diazotization and reduction of the resulting diazonium salt. These types of reactions can range from excellent to poor, depending on substrate. Steve Turner Real address contains worldnet instead of spamnet |
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| Yes. The best solubilizing groups to get the molecule into cells are amines. (Primary, secondary, tertiary - they all work) But stay away from amides (-CONH2) The trouble is: once you make such a modification, you are also changing the other biological and chemical properties of the molecule a great deal. Steve Turner <[Only registered users see links. ].net> wrote in message news:<[Only registered users see links. ]>. .. |
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| [Only registered users see links. ] (Muhammar) wrote in message news:<a6cffac9.0402011936.335425e@posting.google.c om>... I thank all of you for your guidance. To get a good idea let me put my project as follows: The main aim of this project is to synthesize meta hydroxylated isomers of biphenyl (BP) or diphenylacetylene (DPA). SO the final products are m-HBP (hydroxybiphenyl) or m-HDPA (hydroxydiphenylacetylene) depending on the product. These are known to have very important application in aerospace applications. Chemical methods are not desirable as they will not yield regiospecific isomer. As mentioned earlier, the aqueous solubility of both these compounds (BP or DPA) is very low, resulting in low biocatalysis rates. The biocatalysis rates are found to be a function of substrate concentration and enzyme concentration. Toluene/benzene-4- monooxygenase (Tb4m) is used in this case. Initilly experiments were done with Pseudomonas Aeruginosa strains. However, E.coli was chosen later to obtain overexpression. Tb4m enzyme is an intracellular multicomponent enzyme. Cannot be isolated as it will be deactivated outside the cell. But the enzyme concentration within the whole cell can be increased via overexpression. Sulfonation of biphenyl lead to increased solubility, however, was not penetrable through the cell membrane. Currently I am using variuos surfactants to increase the solubility of DPA, which would increase the biocatalysis rates. I am also looking for different alternatives like covalent modifications. Depending on your suggestions I will look into further details. I would appreciate if you could throw more light on the over all project. Thanking you. -Sweetysom |
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| I am sorry to tel you that your project looks like utter waste of time. Of course biphenyl would be a very cheap starting material if the biology would work. But, even in your ideal case - is it not the poblem of all fermentation processes that you end-up with a rich broth which has only few hundreds miligrams of product per liter and you have to isolate your product from such a soup? Kind of defeats the purpose - if you want to make cheaply large quantiuties of the stuff. Tell you prof that he is guilty of wishful thinking. Contrary to your statement, there is plenty of good synthetic methods available and some of them can be even done in one-pot experiment. Besides, how much is the aerospace willing to pay? If it is >$50/kg, than I am sure synthetic chemistry is far better alternative than fermentation. My guess is that your prof has isolated this bacterial enzymatic system and is desperate to demonstrate that his research has any practical value. But from engineering point of view, one should start with a resonable method and only try a funky one (like your bacteria stuff) when there in no other reasonable alternative. [Only registered users see links. ] (sweetysom) wrote in message news:<53b2f17c.0402021013.5126153b@posting.google. com>... |
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| [Only registered users see links. ] (Muhammar) wrote in message news:<a6cffac9.0402021920.73c2beb3@posting.google. com>... I thankyou for your valuable suggestion and time. It does make some sense. However, I believe synthesising a meta - isomer is very difficult via normal chemical methods and hence is the present Biocatalytic method. Could you throw more light on the variuos synthetic methods? |
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