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| [Only registered users see links. ] NIZKOR Lies about Toxicity of Diesel Exhaust Gas Some comments to "The Toxicity of Fumes from a Diesel Engine under Four Different Running Conditions" by Friedrich Paul Berg Of the hundreds of essays from technical and medical journals that I have cited over the last twenty years to refute the Holocaust hoax, the linked essay by Pattle et al. is, by far, the most important. Please see my most recent discussion in Dissecting the Holocaust (2003). According to Holocaust mythology, most Nazi gassings were committed with Diesel exhaust in approximately half-an-hour, or even less. The essay by Pattle and four other researchers in Britain in the mid-1950's is the only known inhalation study ever on living animals in which the diesel exhaust exposures consisted of full-strength diesel exhaust and continued until the animals either expired from the exposures, or until five hours had elapsed. My first essay on this subject—"The Diesel Gas Chambers: Myth Within a Myth" (1984) was a highly theoretical analysis of the likely morbidity from diesel exhaust based on the well-established toxicity of carbon monoxide and reduced oxygen. A theoretical analysis in which all possible toxins in the exhaust could be considered seemed far too complex to have any real meaning. That shortcoming was answered, however, when the Pattle study was brought to my attention years later—and, it confirms everything I had written earlier about the inherent absurdity of diesel exhaust as a lethal agent for killing Jews or anyone else. But, it even shows that my earlier conclusions were actually quite conservative; the necessary conditions that one would have had to impose on any diesel to commit mass murder are even more preposterous than I had previously imagined. The Pattle essay is thorough, rigorous and clear enough for all who are willing to read it carefully and honestly. There has never been any challenge to its findings either. Nonetheless, there are those who flagrantly misuse the Pattle essay and even claim, for example, that: "In all cases, the animals died." This blatant lie is spread primarily by one pro-Semitic organization called NIZKOR. See for example the internet essay entitled: "The Leuchter Report: Fumes from a diesel engine are not toxic enough to kill people." But there are many other websites and organizations which simply repeat essentially the exact same NIZKOR text and lie, even in German. Even more outrageous is the fact that such false propaganda is readily accessible in Germany and is even recommended by official organizations such as IDGR—but the refutation of the NIZKOR lie, including this essay, are suppressed by German law and severe German internet restrictions on access providers. The reader should confirm for himself that according to Table 1, Column A of Pattle at al., all of the animals survived five hours of continuous exposure to the diesel exhaust from an engine running at idle, and even continued to survive for another 7 days after being removed from the gas chamber. See page 50 of the linked essay. The reader can also confirm for himself, that in the most lethal of the tests, D1, all of the animals were indeed dead within the five hour test period—but, the text on page 49 also states: "After one hour's exposure in D1 (0,22% CO), all except three of the 20 mice were dead. All the rabbits and guinea pigs were alive. After 3 hr. 20 min. all the animals were dead and the experiment was stopped." [emphasis added] But even this was only achieved with an exposure time more than six times as long as Gerstein and others have claimed for the alleged homicidal Nazi diesel gas chambers. In other words, for exposures of half-an-hour or less, hardly any animals die even under condition D1 and D2 which simulated an extreme loaded condition on the engine. Clearly, NIZKOR and especially a (Dr.?) Daniel Keren are scurrilous liars but their lie will, no doubt, persist indefinitely because it is an "essential lie" or prop for the Holocaust hoax. Surely, the Pattle et al. essay must be banned in Germany as soon as possible just as literature based on direct observations of the moons orbiting Jupiter were banned by the Catholic Church. Pattle et al. must be completely wrong in their conclusions since the Holocaust claims are legally established and binding on us all. If Pattle, Stretch, Burgess, Sinclair and/or Edginton are still alive, they must all publicly apologize for their shameful experimental tests on living animals and admit their errors. And most important of all, Pattle et al. must publicly humiliate themselves for having unwittingly, or wittingly, given such superlative aid and affirmation to the holocaust deniers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last Update: 11/21/2003 16:30:18. |
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| On 28 Jan 2004 10:22:58 -0800, <[Only registered users see links. ] > [Only registered users see links. ] (George B.) wrote: Nizkor also lies about its funding! --Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund?-- NEWER UPDATED VERSION: [Only registered users see links. ] Subject: UPDATED The Nizkor Project Director is Lying About Funds He Has NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for 2002 Is Further Proof! R_1122 Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Date: 22 Nov 2003 13:01:32 GMT AKA "Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" COMICAL DENIAL OF DOCUMENTED FACTS: [Only registered users see links. ] Subject: Re: Ken McVay's (Director of The Nizkor Project) $50,000+ Tax Evasion Exposed aka Re: Gosh Darn Uppity Juice! Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Date: 18 Jan 2004 21:17:40 GMT OLDER ORIGINAL VERSION: [Only registered users see links. ] Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund Message-ID: <[Only registered users see links. ]> Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:22 GMT __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - [Only registered users see links. ] <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><> |
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| "Barney Fife" <barney_fife@mayberry01net> wrote in message news:[Only registered users see links. ]... <[Only registered users see links. ] > Neither the CCRA or the IRS agree with you, and they're in much better positions to know. But speaking of lying about funding, are you ready to prove that you have the $10,000 that's the essential part of the "$10,000 Challenge" you've made? You know that your "Challenge" has been accepted contingent on your proving you have the money. So, do you have it? Yes, or no? It's a simple question and simple answer. -pk |
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| |>Some comments to "The Toxicity of Fumes from a Diesel Engine under |>Four Different Running Conditions" |> |>by Friedrich Paul Berg |> |>Of the hundreds of essays from technical and medical journals that I |>have cited over the last twenty years to refute the Holocaust hoax, |>the linked essay by Pattle et al. is, by far, the most important. |>Please see my most recent discussion in Dissecting the Holocaust |>(2003). According to Holocaust mythology, most Nazi gassings were |>committed with Diesel exhaust in approximately half-an-hour, or even |>less. Actually, the Nazis used diesels which had been modified by some of the top German scientists of the day. After the war, those scientists were brought to the US with others, most notable of whom was von Braun. Those same scinetists later become the backbone of the EPA, and have blessed civilization with things like Oxygenated Fuel and variable venturi carbuetors. Rex in Fort Worth |
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| "Ken McVay, OBC" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered users see links. ]>... Mike Stein says: "Did you know... that only one of the 'Operation Reinhard' death camps may have used a diesel engine? (At Belzec and Sobibor, petrol engines were used.)" So, what about Pfannenstiel's and Gerstein's testimony? Were they wrong about Diesel engine in Belzec? |
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| "Sergey Romanov" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:aa65b046.0401281500.64cb0eba@posting.google.c om... news:<[Only registered users see links. ]>... According to Yad Vashem, the Belzed site used "ordinary, universally available gasoline and diesel fuel," so there isn't a clear-cut answer just yet. See [Only registered users see links. ]. The same document tells us, however, that "Bottled carbon monoxide was used for these experiments. However, a short while later the gassings were carried out with carbon monoxide from the exhaust fumes a of motorcar engine. The engine from an armored vehicle ("250 h.p.") was installed in a shed outside the gas chamber, whence the gas was piped into the gas chamber.." In the case of Sobibor, we have eyewitness testimony that a petrol engine was used, putting the lie to Berg's claim that diesel was used in all three Aktion Reinhard camps: "Upon completion of the construction work, extermination tests were conducted in mid-April 1942. Wirth came to Sobibor in order to follow the experiments. He was accompanied by a chemist whose pseudonym was Dr. Blaurock (or Blaubacke). SS-Unterscharführer Erich Fuchs, who served in Belzec, described the preparations for the first gassing trials: On Wirth's instructions I travel led by truck to Lvov and collected a gassing engine there, which I transported to Sobibor. In Sobibor... [we] unloaded the engine. It was a heavy Russian gasoline engine [probably a tank or train engine] with at least 200 h.p. [V-enginel 8 cylinders, water cooled]. We stood the engine on a concrete base and connected the exhaust to the pipe conduit. Then I tried out the engine. To begin with, it did not function. I managed to repair the ignition and the ventils so that the motor finally started." [Only registered users see links. ] In the Treblinka camp, the research tells us that "During the first stage, three gas chambers were in operation, each of them, much like those in Sobibor,4 x 4 m. in size and 2.6 m. high. A diesel engine producing poisonous carbon monoxide, as well as a generator which supplied the whole camp with electricity, were housed in a built-on room." [Only registered users see links. ] |
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| Roger <roger@ . > wrote in message news:<d2aef6a75d7b78d161daaaf4dbe6cf4a@news.terane ws.com>... And exactly what has this to do with the holohoax, Fart Breath? |
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