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Old 12-05-2003, 03:37 PM
Mark Tarka
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I don't know if this is a worthwhile offer,
but there may be someone without the assets
to get the material via "normal" channels.

Currently I'm in Southwest Florida.
By January I should be in Austin, TX. The
University of Texas has established a fine
library, including many if not all of the
major German language scientific journals
(Zeit...., Ber...., etc.). I recall finding
and painfully translating papers by Stern
and Gerlach, seeing a picture of the tile
target showing the distribution of the
silver atoms. Modern texts have really
massaged that publication. There were some
very clever experiments done in those
times.

If someone has a citation or a few citations
to journals of that era and hasn't the
resources to get to them, pass them on to
me and I'll try to find them. There may
be copy and postage costs involved.

This all depends upon my actually getting
to Austin (quantum tunneling through the
Big Easy, for example, is a real engineering
challenge :-), and my situation when I get
there. I'm willing to try.

Post here, please. Those with .edu addresses
need not apply (I _will_ check :-)


Mark
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Old 12-05-2003, 05:11 PM
Marvin Margoshes
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"Mark Tarka" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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You have just stated in public that you intend to violate the US law on
copyrights. You have to pay the copyright owner a fee for each article,
unless you are copying it for your personal use.


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Old 12-05-2003, 08:55 PM
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"Mark Tarka" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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<SNIP>



Check me! Check me!


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Old 12-08-2003, 02:57 PM
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"Marvin Margoshes" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered users see links. ]>...
[snip...]

I take it, that you have no need for the
offer :-)


Mark
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Old 12-08-2003, 05:47 PM
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"Mark Tarka" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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I do need reprints at times. But I have respect for intellectual property
rights, just as I do for your rights to your property.



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Old 12-08-2003, 06:13 PM
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In article <[Only registered users see links. ]>,
Marvin Margoshes <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

Unlike those awful libraries, which actually provide photocopiers for your
use, or will even send away for photocopies of articles they don't have?


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"'No user-serviceable parts inside.' I'll be the judge of that!"
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Old 12-08-2003, 09:58 PM
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>From: "Marvin Margoshes" [Only registered users see links. ]


I'd be rich if I had all the uncollected royalties from my articles ... No
wonder I don't get checks from the ACS ...

Nonsense ... The authors of scientific articles are very happy their work is
distributed and read ...in fact most I know encourage it ... the ACS et. al. is
who abuses the intellectual property rights of their unpaid authors ... And as
another poster points out ... You can any library to send you a copy for their
copying fees ... a lot more than Mark is offering to do it for ... I for one
(though doubt I'll ever have need for it) appreciate the offer ...


Be seeing you
In the Village
Number 6

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Old 12-09-2003, 02:48 AM
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[Only registered users see links. ] (SNUMBER6) wrote:


I'm inclined to agree with snumber6. Good or bad, right or wrong, few
scientists collect any royalties on published papers. In fact, ACS
requires transfer of copyright to ACS for publication. The reward for
scientific publishing is not monetary but is rather dissemination and
recognition of one's work.

Steve Turner

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Old 12-10-2003, 02:32 AM
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"SNUMBER6" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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property
is
al. is
And as
their
one

Publishers have costs, and need to recover them somehow. One way is selling
reprints. There was an effort years ago to charge authors (page charge, it
was called) for publishing the paper, but that was very unpopular and it was
dropped. More recently, advocates of free cpies of articles for everybody
decided to set up their own publishing houses. Guess how they prop[ose to
cover their costs? Answer: page charges of hundreds of dollars per article.

Libraries who make photocopies and don't pay the publisher the required fee
are breaking the law. I don't think many do it.

You are free to go into your public library and make a copy of anything for
your own use - legally. The public library will charge you as much as 25
cents a page for use of the copy machine.

Somehow, the idea has become popular that information should be free. It
is, under certain conditions. I'd like my food to be free too, and my
apartment, and gas for my car - which should also be free.



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Old 12-10-2003, 03:13 AM
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"Marvin Margoshes" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


These are all valid points, and they are the reasons that I won't
accuse ACS of doing anything nefarious, even though they "benefit"
from all of the free papers submitted by scientists. ACS does provide
a valuable service in coordinating the refereeing of those papers and
then publishing them, so benefits accrue to scientists as well.

Traditional information dissemination processes are under
unprecedented pressures, which are causing unprecedented strains.
Stay tuned, I guess.

Steve Turner

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