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Old 10-24-2003, 12:30 AM
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Does somebody understand well what are the fundamental reasons for
degradation of system's internal energy into heat (some books say
degradation of work into heat) during irreversible processes? Or the
reasons vary on a system to system basis? Or it's just a cyclic
definition: "irreversible processes are those in which portion of
system's internal energy transforms into heat" and "portion of
system's internal energy always transforms into heat in irreversible
processes"? The classic textbook example of a cylinder with a
frictionless piston and sand on the top does not explain fundamental
reasons, as for me.
Textbooks say that the systems in equilibrium cannot do work.
However, in the same books, reversible process is represented as a
chain of equilibrium states. The work done by this "chain" process is
maximum possible. Another contradiction I have trouble with.
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Old 10-24-2003, 04:45 AM
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"ChemStudent" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in message
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Well then think of one with friction!


You can think of this as a mere abstraction to the infinite, of those
systems that pass through a finite number of equilibrium states.


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Old 10-25-2003, 11:04 PM
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On 23 Oct 2003 17:30:06 -0700, [Only registered users see links. ] (ChemStudent)
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Is your question, 'Why do all systems tend toward disorder?'

There is no answer. The tendency for entropy to increase is the
mainspring that drives the Universe. It is a *cause*, not an answer.

If you insist on an answer, consult your nearest Bible, Koran, etc.

Bill Penrsoe

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