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'Green chemists' are not a bunch of oxymorons

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Old 08-11-2003, 09:23 PM
Steve Turner
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Howard Lovy <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:


There's nothing oxymoronic about green chemistry, and there's nothing
new about it except the name. Its principles are used commonly in
process chemistry: utilization of benign reagents where possible,
utilization of the smalles proportion of the least toxic solvent
possible, atom economy, etc. Very often the most environmentally
friendly process is also the one with the fewest safety hazards, and
will often also be the one with the lowest cost.

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Old 08-12-2003, 12:38 AM
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"Steve Turner" <[Only registered users see links. ].net> wrote in message
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Since when have these guys adopted principles.


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Old 08-12-2003, 04:32 PM
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Steve Turner ([Only registered users see links. ].net) wrote:
: Howard Lovy <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:

: >His lab is heavily involved in "Green Chemistry," and if you think
: >that's an inherent contradiction, take a look at some of his fascinating
: >research.

: There's nothing oxymoronic about green chemistry, and there's nothing
: new about it except the name. Its principles are used commonly in
: process chemistry: utilization of benign reagents where possible,
: utilization of the smalles proportion of the least toxic solvent
: possible, atom economy, etc. Very often the most environmentally
: friendly process is also the one with the fewest safety hazards, and
: will often also be the one with the lowest cost.

It amazes me that so many people are convinced that chemists in industry
are Hell-bent on putting themselves in as much danger to toxic, mutagenic,
carcinogenic, teratogenic and everythingelseogenic chemical exposure as
possible just to please our greedy employers who care nothing about
anything but making more money regardless of their reputation or health.

That was a long sentence.

Of course, people who know absolutely nothing about chemistry are so much
better qualified to determine the "greenness" of chemical manufacturing
processes than thousands of Ph.D. chemists.

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Old 08-13-2003, 03:27 PM
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[Only registered users see links. ] (William David Thweatt) wrote in message news:<bhb4qj$iab$[Only registered users see links. ].edu>...

Uhhh.........yes..........it was. Would a comma after
"possible" in the fourth line aid in readability?

[snip...]


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Old 08-13-2003, 07:19 PM
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And your point is ....?

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Old 08-13-2003, 08:23 PM
William David Thweatt
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Mark Tarka ([Only registered users see links. ]) wrote:
: [Only registered users see links. ] (William David Thweatt) wrote in message news:<bhb4qj$iab$[Only registered users see links. ].edu>...
: > Steve Turner ([Only registered users see links. ].net) wrote:
: > : Howard Lovy <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote:
: >
: > : >His lab is heavily involved in "Green Chemistry," and if you think
: > : >that's an inherent contradiction, take a look at some of his fascinating
: > : >research.
: >
: > : There's nothing oxymoronic about green chemistry, and there's nothing
: > : new about it except the name. Its principles are used commonly in
: > : process chemistry: utilization of benign reagents where possible,
: > : utilization of the smalles proportion of the least toxic solvent
: > : possible, atom economy, etc. Very often the most environmentally
: > : friendly process is also the one with the fewest safety hazards, and
: > : will often also be the one with the lowest cost.
: >
: > It amazes me that so many people are convinced that chemists in industry
: > are Hell-bent on putting themselves in as much danger to toxic, mutagenic,
: > carcinogenic, teratogenic and everythingelseogenic chemical exposure as
: > possible just to please our greedy employers who care nothing about
: > anything but making more money regardless of their reputation or health.
: >
: > That was a long sentence.

: Uhhh.........yes..........it was. Would a comma after
: "possible" in the fourth line aid in readability?

Probably not.

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