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| Nope, that's backwards. Most plants rely on nitrogen that they obtain from dissolved nitrogen compounds (NO, ammonia,nitrates, etc.) in the soil. "Nitrogen-fixing" plants obtain nitrogne from bacteria that fix it from the atmosphere (by converting N2 to ammonia.) This is why trying to increase plant biomass usually requires input of nitrogen fertilizers. Yes, making other plants nitrogen-fixing would be spiffy, but you also have to consider something else: Once a plant dies, all the CO2 that has been sequestered in its tissues goes right back into the atmosphere through burning, decay, etc. M. Reed |
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| Whata Fool wrote: Your final carbon tax.... |
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| "Ouroboros_Rex" <[Only registered users see links. ]> wrote in news:fnt7hv$usg$[Only registered users see links. ].uiuc.edu: [Only registered users see links. ] More recent research indicates that this may actually be true, the question does remain about how much is caused by man. This is quite false. We use oxygen as an electron donor for the reduction of hydrogen. Plants use carbon dioxide as a source of carbon which is used as a building block for biochemicals. Most plants get nitrogen from the water, about 1/3 of plants get nitrogen from the soil, and a small number use symbiotic relationships to get nitrogen from bacteria that get it from the air. Several species of grass do have such a relationship, Dactylus glomeratus is one. The orchid family is right up there too. Usually it is easier to play with one chromosome than with 40. Actually, you probably have to alter both, as both partners need to have some reliance on the other. For instance, most nitrogen fixing plants produce a variant of hemoglobin that helps lower oxygen concentration around the bacteria, which vastly improves the fixation rate. Not all the subsequent statements depend on the first one. For instance, it is a good idea to reduce dependence on nitrogen fertilizers, regardless of any effect it may have on atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Sean -- Posted via a free Usenet account from [Only registered users see links. ] |
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| This is a very complicated "what if" question. I doubt engineering plants to fix nitrogen would have a major impact on global warming for the following reasons: 1. Plant nitrogen fixation requires a lot of photosynthetic energy. Plants that naturally fix nitrogen often produce less dry matter if they have to fix all their own nitrogen than when they are fertilized with nitrogen. 2. The main reason to engineer plants to fix nitrogen is to save on the cost of fertilizers. Fertilizer production uses a lot of fossil fuel, and contributes to global warming, so there might be some savings in fossil fuel use in fertilizer production. However, that fossil fuel will simply be burned for something else given the increasing demand for fossil fuels. 3. Plants that will be engineered to fix nitrogen will be high value food crops such as corn, wheat and rice. The biomass those food plants produce is simply plowed under or burned each season so no carbon dioxide is permanently removed from the air. 4. Plant growth is often limited by factors other than nitrogen, especially water, temperature, other mineral nutrients, insects, plant diseases, etc. Plants engineered to fix nitrogen will not automatically have greater growth rates than nonengineered plants. 5. Fighting global warming by sequestering recently produced plant dry matter cannot have a significant impact because we are burning fossil fuels and lowering the world's photosynthetic capacity via forest destruction, building, paving, etc. at such a rapid rate. One estimate is that one gallon of gasoline required 98 tons of buried plant matter. "Bad Mileage: 98 tons of plants per gallon" [Only registered users see links. ] David R. Hershey [Only registered users see links. ] |
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| Probably. One may as well go all the way though. Plants need three things to grow: water/minerals, CO2/O2, sunlight. These three things are abundant on the surface of the oceans, therefore GM plants of the "water-hyacinth" variety might be convinced to grow while floating on the surface. Some plants such as kelp (which have small air-filled bladders to keep them buoyant) have little trouble with seawater, and any floating variety would be easy to harvest and process; like whales! Compare this with Canola which is a GM rapeseed plant, and the ease at which it grows in vast flat areas and how easy it is to harvest with mechanical devices. Large masses of floating weeds would have a calming effect on the ocean surface (like "oil on troubled waters"). The Sargasso sea (calmer than most) might be a good place to start. |
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