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| Hi Tanya For the last 15 years or so we have been routinely studying Arabidopsis root growth and branching on vertical 'agar' plates, for up to two weeks after germination. We have used 0.8% agar-agar in the past with reasonable results, but found that batches were variable and sometimes root growth would be inhibited. We now choose to use PhytagelTM, which is purer and gives a clearer gel, and we have had no problems with different batches (note that you have to make sure that the divalent cation concentration in the medium is at least 2 mM, otherwise it won't set!). As an important aside, I would strongly recommend that you *don't* use MS (or even 1/2 MS) for anything other than tissue culture or antibiotic selection. It is an extremely rich medium with non-physiological N concentrations that far exceed anything that plants are ever likely to have experienced in nature (40 mM nitrate + 20 mM ammonium)and root growth in this medium is also very slow. We use a dilute form of B5 medium that allows much faster root growth. We have done direct comparisons with Ler and Col-0 growing in MS, 1/2 MS and in our modified B5 medium at different rates of N supply and found that all growth parameters (lateral roots, primary roots, shoots) are faster on the modified B5 medium. The modified B5 medium also allows you to vary individual components of the nutrient supply without creating severe nutrient imbalances that cause plant stress. The composition of our medium was originally published in Zhang & Forde (1998) Science 279, 407-409, but I can give you more details if you wish to email me. Good luck! Brian ===================================== Brian G. Forde Prof. of Environmental Plant Biotechnology Department of Biological Sciences Lancaster Environment Centre Lancaster University Bailrigg Lancaster LA1 4YQ tel. +44 (0)1524 510207 (direct line) email [Only registered users see links. ] [Only registered users see links. ] Editor-in-Chief Plant Methods email [Only registered users see links. ] [Only registered users see links. ] ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: [Only registered users see links. ] [mailto:[Only registered users see links. ].indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Falbel, Tanya G. Sent: 09 February 2008 21:11 To: [Only registered users see links. ] Subject: [Arabidopsis] brands of agar Colleagues: Over the years, I've used several brands of agar for growing Arabidopsis seedlings on MS medium, from Gibco, Sigma, and others. I've heard that some groups use Noble agar, others, bacto-agar, others in the past have washed their own agar, used phytagel or other gelling agents. I have two questions: 1) What brands of agar are most commonly in use now by groups? I've found something similar to Gibco's Phytagar that is now available through Caisson labs. Other groups seem to like Sigma's A1296. But besides those, what do most groups use? I'm especially interested in the opinion of groups that measure root length or root branching - growing roots vertically on plates for more than just a couple of days. (as opposed to just antibiotic selection) 2) Does anyone know what inhibitors are washed away? Are micronutrient ions or other toxic compounds bound to the crude agar? Has anyone looked into this? This may have been a question that came up among researchers 10 years ago, but I couldn't find any record in the archives. Here's why I'm asking. I made up a batch of medium with a brand of 'purified agar for microbial use', and got a very strong inhibition of root meristems. Seed germination was good, but roots failed to elongate any further after about 4 days of growth. The root meristems became a swollen mess, reminiscent of what happens in weak gnom alleles. I'm trying to decide if this is something worth looking into. I know that for regeneration of plants in tissue culture, folks are very fussy about particular brands of agar. Please let me know what brands you have used with success or failure. I'd be especially interested in other similar experiences - where a brand wreaked havoc on root meristems. Thanks Tanya Falbel Department of Biology 105 Garfield Avenue University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Eau Claire, WI 54702-4004, USA Tel: 715-836-5087 Fax: 715-836-5089 _______________________________________________ Arab-gen mailing list [Only registered users see links. ] [Only registered users see links. ] |
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| [Arabidopsis] brands of agar | Tobias Baskin | Arabidopsis and Plant Biology | 1 | 10-31-2010 08:40 PM |
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| [Arabidopsis] brands of agar | Smalle, Jan A | Arabidopsis and Plant Biology | 0 | 02-15-2008 02:58 PM |
| [Arabidopsis] brands of agar | Grant Cramer | Arabidopsis and Plant Biology | 0 | 02-13-2008 06:15 PM |
| [Arabidopsis] brands of agar | Tobias Baskin | Arabidopsis and Plant Biology | 0 | 02-11-2008 01:33 PM |